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Post by Tanuki »

most are console ports any way so they already made there money on the console ver


That is not true. Developing a game for a console requires a lot more startup money. Most PC games do not have console counterparts.

Oblivion WiC and Supcom prove you dont need heavy handed copy protection to make money


Bioshock, Splinter Cell, quoting the exceptions clouds the issue.

why cant PC games be like consoles in that they dont need to be installed
or just have a very small install like back years ago
then run off the DVD


That would be a disaster. Long load times, smaller games, etc
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and ill approve of the piracy of any game with draconian copy protection

i think Steam is the right model here


also note the there was an artical that said some thing like non-DRM online music sales out numbered DRM infected ones 4 to 1

people dont want shitty DRM in there games, music or movies
then theres the fact you can tell till you open the game what its using and if you dont like it you cant take it back real fare there

i wish EA a fast death and 2k can join them if they do this again
and i will pirate any game EA or 2k publish

on the other hand ill buy any game that is ether on steam(with no other copy protection it WHY DID BIOSHOCK ON STEAM EVEN NEED THAT SHIT?)
or that atlest makes a compromise like WIC or removes it after a few weeks

i can see having it to sell more at first but once its cracked it should be removed its not doing any one any thing
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Piracy is for the person who wants to play free games and accepts the dangers that go along with it (consciously or unconsciously)

Buying games in stores is for the person who is fine with paying for games with the satisfaction that he helped fund the companies who produce them and doesn't want to live with the immense risk of getting penalized by the law.

It's like speeding. If someone speeds they get to the place they're going faster but could get caught. If you obey the limit you get to the place slower but don't have to worry about the police.

Now if anti-piracy laws and (most of) the DMCA was enforced, everyone (who doesn't steal games 24/7) would be a lot happier.....
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Post by Tolyngee »

If you obey the limit you get to the place slower but don't have to worry about the police.


Eh, still might have to worry about being pulled over on suspicion of DWB.
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DWB.

:shock: :shock: LOL :shock: :shock:
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[quote]DWB.

:shock: :shock: LOL :shock: :shock:

PUMCODOXPURSACOMLOPAR it!
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I agree. People who pirate games will always pirate. If a game cannot be pirated when they want it they will just wait for it. :roll:

And no one buys a game when they could pirate it instead.

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@ Sakatei
m sorry, but you don't know if any of that is true and i definitely proved you wrong on the "No one buys a game when they could pirate it instead as i buy all of my games and will never pirate unless something horribly wrong happens financially. At the very least, ill buy from Ebay.

I also don't agree with the statement that all devs love what they do. All the more reason to give them a reward.
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@ Anyone
Game dev can be very hard work. Google the "A.I." for tic-tac-toe ( .txt AI tic-tac-toe) and see if that looks fun to build. I've preached about paying a little more for games to get what i want for on a few occasions.

On the other hand, if someone who cannot afford the game wants the game and wouldn't otherwise contribute money to the devs, don't they deserve the same type of endorphin flow as you?

I'd be interested to know the demographic of those that pirate and more specifically, what percent are low income families. I realize this could get into a debate about the purpose of an economic system, but about are just part-arbitrary thoughts, not trying to make a political statement.
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Should a man not be entitled to the sweat from his brow???
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Should a man not be entitled to the sweat from his brow???


not if it hes going to install a root kit in my PC with out telling me first
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Post by Paradigm Shifter »

For anyone who cares, I got dispatch notification today for my pre-order of Crysis.

With any luck, I'll have it in my hands (and quickly thereafter installed on my PC) tomorrow.

Provided the post doesn't mess me up again...

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...God, I haven't been this enthusiastic about a PC game since C&C: Tib Sun! :D

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Dammit.

I hated Tib Sun.

This doesn't bode well.

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Nah, I'm sure it'll be fine. :D
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Should a man not be entitled to the sweat from his brow???


No says the man at Sierra, it belongs to the POOR.

No says the man at VALVe, it belongs to GOD.

No says the man at EA, it belongs to EVERYONE.
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@ Sakatei
m sorry, but you don't know if any of that is true and i definitely proved you wrong on the "No one buys a game when they could pirate it instead as i buy all of my games and will never pirate unless something horribly wrong happens financially. At the very least, ill buy from Ebay.


I was being sarcastic. You are agreeing with me.



No says the man at Sierra, it belongs to the POOR.

No says the man at VALVe, it belongs to GOD.

No says the man at EA, it belongs to EVERYONE.


No says the man at Interplay, it belongs to.....wait a minute.
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On the other hand, if someone who cannot afford the game wants the game and wouldn't otherwise contribute money to the devs, don't they deserve the same type of endorphin flow as you?

Who are these people who can't afford an occasional game? And how do they afford the $300 graphics card upgrades necessary to play them and the broadband connection necessary to download them?
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Good point, if i got an inference correctly, but i could imagine a lot of situations where that situation "might" pan out.

But....hehehe....In an attempt to refresh my brain and do some economic math, i attempted to Google % of broadband households (50%), the poverty rate(12%) and the average US hourly wage, which is 17.55 (.55 more than i make!!), as of October 07, i thought it was like 10!!! So my opinions are probably all Fubar!!! HAHAHAHA ....:cry:
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On the other hand, if someone who cannot afford the game wants the game and wouldn't otherwise contribute money to the devs, don't they deserve the same type of endorphin flow as you?

Who are these people who can't afford an occasional game? And how do they afford the $300 graphics card upgrades necessary to play them and the broadband connection necessary to download them?
by saving money from downloading games.

I'm a sinner in this aspect as well. Mostly because most games nowdays are rather unimpressive I don't waste my time to do more than check them out. its not like pc users can RENT a game.
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by saving money from downloading games.

If you're saving money by doing this, then that means you would have bought the games otherwise. The whole point of the "too poor to buy games" argument is that they claim they wouldn't have been supporting the devs in the first place. Claiming that you're saving money by downloading kind of works against this point.

Mostly because most games nowdays are rather unimpressive I don't waste my time to do more than check them out. its not like pc users can RENT a game.

That's exactly what demos are for - to allow you to "check them out."
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by saving money from downloading games.

If you're saving money by doing this, then that means you would have bought the games otherwise. The whole point of the "too poor to buy games" argument is that they claim they wouldn't have been supporting the devs in the first place. Claiming that you're saving money by downloading kind of works against this point.

Mostly because most games nowdays are rather unimpressive I don't waste my time to do more than check them out. its not like pc users can RENT a game.

That's exactly what demos are for - to allow you to "check them out."


and why i call download it an "extened" demo
demos are one thing but i like see more then 5 min of game play if im going to spend money on a game and some games dont have demos

also i would rent PC games if i could but you cant
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and why i call download it an "extened" demo

It's not at all surprising that a pirate would invent a cute name for something that amounts to stealing.

demos are one thing but i like see more then 5 min of game play if im going to spend money on a game

And if you spend money on a game, you are completely entitled to see more than 5 minutes of it. If not, you're only entitled to play as much as the developers saw fit to give away.

some games dont have demos

That point is irrelevant unless you can honestly claim that you only pirate games that lack demos.
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Makes me think of Soldier of Fortune 3... since i loved SOF and SOF2 oh-so-much, i pre-paid for a copy of it. Since it comes out a week later here in Canada, i decided to download it, as i was impatient to play it.

Boy, am I glad i did! What a shit game. Of course i went to the store and got my money back, and breathed a sigh of relief to not getting ripped-off by this crap game. Piracy may not be kosher, but it DID save me 60 dollars.

oh and i DID, naturally, delete the download. So bad, it's even a waste of bandwidth. I feel sorry for those poor bastards that paid good money for it. Hell, to ANYONE that gets exposed to it, in any manner.

PS - as for Crysis, I ordered it, downloaded it out of impatience, bought it yesterday, and deleted the download..

100% worth the money. hah and worth the money for a new video card to run it :>
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Demos are criminally short, lack options, and often times I have no clue whats it about. I do play some of the demos.

And I was saying how we afford $300 card is because we save money this way! :D

Call it illegal if you want. Argue your way if you want...in the end...I'll still download it. and if I like it. I'll buy it. The only company that has made things worth my money is Epic and Valve. I have legal copies of every UT, Unreal, HL out there. Why? Because they were great games. Heck even my Quake III disk is legit. (I lost it but thats not important) Through time I've bought many games...but how can one handle all the crap thats comming out now? Bittorrent gave me my answer.

Another thing...in the old days you could rent pc games. The idea of piracy wasn't really around until the CD burner. Most Xbox users will admit to renting things. Soooo Think of it as us renting the game...for free...and forever.
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