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Should I move to a Cordless Mouse?

Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 12:18
by BongoTrumman
I have the USB dongle on the back of my chassi.

See link for picture

I really like the mouse. A bit small but i like it. Although it works extremely bad. I hope it is the signal since I can fix it with an extension cord(hopefully). Been to lazy to try it out. I have tried the mouse on my desk surface, qpad xxl, Steelpad 5L, XtracPads Hybrid, corepad magna(yea I know laser don't work well on glass but I wanted to try it on the ones I had) and other random stuff I had at home but I can't really use the mouse because it jumps/stop moving to much. So I switched back to my MX518 due to heavy laziness :). But I tried the software and messed around with the mouse and I will try extension cord and whatever to make it work. I'll have to get back to you on that.

Should I move to a Cordless Mouse?

Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 12:41
by JohnnyWakko
I have the USB dongle on the back of my chassi.

See link for picture

I really like the mouse. A bit small but i like it. Although it works extremely bad. I hope it is the signal since I can fix it with an extension cord(hopefully). Been to lazy to try it out. I have tried the mouse on my desk surface, qpad xxl, Steelpad 5L, XtracPads Hybrid, corepad magna(yea I know laser don't work well on glass but I wanted to try it on the ones I had) and other random stuff I had at home but I can't really use the mouse because it jumps/stop moving to much. So I switched back to my MX518 due to heavy laziness :). But I tried the software and messed around with the mouse and I will try extension cord and whatever to make it work. I'll have to get back to you on that.


Yeah I'm tellin yer it's signal interference not the laser of the mouse. So all you gotta do it find somewhere where there is no interference.

Mine Wakes up INSTANTLY, no lag at all no wait time. So it powers down, as soon as I move it, power is on and the pointer has already moved. MY GOD IT READS MY MIND!!!!!

I hope it doesn't know what I did last week...
:oops:

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Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 12:45
by BongoTrumman
Sounds great JohnnyWakko. I hope I can get rid of the interference.

What did you do last week?

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Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 13:34
by JohnnyWakko
What did you do last week?


This is a family friendly forum, I cannot extrapolate (not sure if that word fits in the sentence.)

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Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 13:50
by packerfan
What did you do last week?


Do we want to know... :lol:

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Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 21:54
by marwan
mouse pad recommendations? i a need a large mouse pad which looks discrete.

what do you guys recommend? Are the Razor ones any good? i'm using it for my Logitech MX Revolution mouse.....(yes i bought a new one!) :(

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Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 22:07
by DanielTC
I suggest anything by func:

http://func.net

I got a Func Archetype 1030 and it is awesome . . . now that I know which side I like more (smooth side for me) I will be getting a one-sided only mousepad in the future when my current one wears out, since they are bigger and so on.

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Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 23:21
by JohnnyWakko
Hey! This isn't a mousepad thread, we have been there in force already!

:searchplease

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Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 12:05
by BongoTrumman
An update.

I used an extension cable and placed the USB dongle on my desk close to the MX Revolution and it worked great. I only had time to try it in the desktop.
Hard to believe the interference was that bad when they were so close.

Cheers JohnnyWakko.

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Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 14:06
by packerfan
Sure its practically wired (having the reciever on a dongle almost touching)

But it still isnt wired so you dont have to deal with a wire getting in the way and pulling on your mouse when it runs out of cord or gets stuck :P

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Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 14:57
by JohnnyWakko
NO LAG!


This is very very very exciting for me, and perhaps you to Bongo and Marwan and anyone who spent wod load on thier mouse (and what a fine looking mouse it is if I may say so myself)

So I tested the USB Dongle next to mouse (before I reakised Bongo did it too fundly enough) The testbed was me playing 2 games of intense UT2004, which is 20minutes a pop, plus warm up period...

So, I was right, there is NO LAG with decent cordless mouse such as the MXRevoltuion, it is only ever signal interference! No Laser delay, no signal wake up delay, no laser wakeup delay no nothing. Just pure unadulterated joy. Seriously. Bongo, I am glad you had similar results, but you should really test it in game, as this is where you will notice it the most. As it stands now, based on around an hour of testing, it's just a matter of making the signal uninterupted and BINGO!

In saying that, I did experience significant signal interference when the dongle was behind the PC and then I moved it to the front of the PC which significantly reduced the interference effects, so now I get none...ok I experienced two very small spots of what COULD have been interference, but I am unsure whether they were me lifing the mouse of the mat (you might be able to see that the left side of the mouse matt is slightly raised due to it being rolled up in storage, and this is where the mouse was at both times), or interfence so I still say close to none . I just hope the signal holds up through the desk. If not, then I get the dongle on the USB extension for when I am gaming, and move the thing to the further distance where interference is at ~0.01%

Behind PC 1% interference
In front of PC reducing interference to 0.1%
Next to mouse <0.01%

So, now all I gotta do is put the cord under the desk and WAMMY hopefully no interference for good!

I must say, if this testing goes the way it has been, and I continue to get no signal interference results, then any widescreen gamer would be uterrly mad not to get such a beautiful mouse to compliment thier widesceen Monitor.

"Lag? None here! See here? No lag. Robbo? No lag here!"

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Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 16:50
by skipclarke
Very nice :D

I might consider picking up one of these myself sometime soon. I loved using a wired mouse but if a wireless will provide the same results or better (more buttons :P ) then I am definitely considering it.

I'm sure the interference thing is no big deal once you figure out a nice spot like you did. Speaking of which, is it just regular and ordinary objects that are causing the interference? Or is it also coming from signals and such from other electronic devices?

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Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 22:09
by MobsterOO7
Hows the battery life on that thing, panda bear?

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Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 22:11
by Gavica
i say go with g7, the mx revolution is crap, specially in First person shooters, because the mouse scroll is unusable as clicking button.

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Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 01:13
by JohnnyWakko
Very nice :D

I might consider picking up one of these myself sometime soon. I loved using a wired mouse but if a wireless will provide the same results or better (more buttons :P ) then I am definitely considering it.

I'm sure the interference thing is no big deal once you figure out a nice spot like you did. Speaking of which, is it just regular and ordinary objects that are causing the interference? Or is it also coming from signals and such from other electronic devices?


Not to sure yet. I have asked Logitech again for some pointers on keeping the signal pure, so I hope to see if they have any ideas. Let me do a few more days testing before you go buy one, as I want to make sure there are no other variables that could effect the signal, such as weather, bloodflow, pets, woman, alcohol and the like.

Hows the battery life on that thing, panda bear?


They specs say its 14days, gamers say its 7 days. I have had it for (1 2 3) into my 4th day, and the battery gauge which has 4 lights, it down to 3 lights. The thing turns itself off if you leave it for 10 seconds, but then comes instantly on if you caress it, with no lag whatsoever. Instant signal and cursor movement.

I can't say at this stage, but I am guessing 7 days for me and I will throw it in the ever so sexy cradle. The thing is, when it gets down to half way, when I stop using the PC I will throw it in the cradle anyway. Its not like you can use the whole batter in one day Jose!

i say go with g7, the mx revolution is crap, specially in First person shooters, because the mouse scroll is unusable as clicking button.


I laugh at your fanciful comment. Is your gaming life is limited to the middle scroll wheel of your mouse? Mine is now spread over 11 buttons and counting.

Yeah he is right, don't buy this mouse, it's crap. :roll:

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Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 01:18
by JohnnyWakko
New button count:

Top:

Left
Right
Search Button
Mouse Wheel
Scroll up
Scroll down
Push left
Push right

Side:

Forward
Back
Window Select
Next window
Previous Window

13 ways I can bind functions to this mouse, and I can customise all 13 for any single progame.

THe forward and back, and "alt-tab" scroll wheen button features are so very very very very handy. HOw could I have lived without them.

I need to review this thing don't I?

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Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 01:25
by packerfan
Yea review it it would be nice, unfortunatly we can't add it to the mouse thread unless we can get bongo to edit in a summary of your review for us. since doug left and he created that thread

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Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 01:27
by skipclarke
Yes that would be very nice :D

I don't think I've ever wanted to use the mouse wheel as a button anyway, i'd much rather use another button.

Are the batteries on the mouse replaceable? Since it is possible that the battery's maximum life will degrade over time.

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Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 02:22
by JohnnyWakko
Yes that would be very nice :D

I don't think I've ever wanted to use the mouse wheel as a button anyway, i'd much rather use another button.

Are the batteries on the mouse replaceable? Since it is possible that the battery's maximum life will degrade over time.


Not by any standard means no, no access to inside the mouse either.

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Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 02:38
by packerfan
The thing turns itself off if you leave it for 10 seconds, but then comes instantly on if you caress it, with no lag whatsoever. Instant signal and cursor movement.


Something about caressing a mouse bugs me... it just seems... weird...

Even though it doesnt have the switchable dpi ive never had it so its making it more tempting for me to want this mouse for a future pc or even my current pc :D

Bongo or anyone else who has used both adjustable dpi and this mouse for gaming, do you miss the dpi changing and speed that comes with it especially in a fps?

Also Johnny would you mind taking a picture with your hand on it in a normal using position just so i can get a size idea of how big it is?

Thanks for both questions