GTA IV and more and more

[MobsterOO7]

I actually have had to call MS because my product key had been used up. But that was 5 years ago when I was reformatting every week. Don't ask.

[DaFox]

I actually have had to call MS because my product key had been used up. But that was 5 years ago when I was reformatting every week. Don't ask.

I've had to call like 3 times... I've reformated that computer maybe 4 times since the last time that I called all 4 times I opted to use a pirated copy rather than phone.

[GeneralAdmission]

But in it's 15+ year existance have you ever had a problem activating Windows? I haven't.

Not my point. Artificial expiration dates or enforced end-of-life technology on goods that would otherwise be viable indefinitely is what I dislike.

There comes a point where complaining about DRM hurts you more than anyone else. Not playing amazing games is one example. Besides, the Liveless mod removes this concern anyway.

I routinely choose not to purchase goods or patronize certain businesses and I am not "hurt" in the least. This is because the reasons for declining my patronage are more important to me than whatever benefit might be offered by the product/service in question.

[StingingVelvet]

[quote]I routinely choose not to purchase goods or patronize certain businesses and I am not "hurt" in the least. This is because the reasons for declining my patronage are more important to me than whatever benefit might be offered by the product/service in question.

But at this point GTA4 is $20 brand new... consider it a 7 year rental if you must, still worth $20.

[GeneralAdmission]

But at this point GTA4 is $20 brand new... consider it a 7 year rental if you must, still worth $20.

I haven't really decided at what price point GTA4 would be worth purchasing. Maybe $5. I don't know.

Honestly I don't have much interest in it anyway.

[Paradigm Shifter]

Windows has only had activation since the launch of XP. Which was... what, 2000? So not fifteen years. Although it's quite scary that it's already been a decade...

GTA4 was worth a fiver to me. It's way better on the PC than on the PS3. I can actually shoot at things and hit them, rather than get shot and die every time I reach a point in the game where using a gun is needed...

[Abram]

I hear ya, Just last night i played my GTA with my controller and every firefight i got into, i ended up getting killed. But having two simultaneous control devices is pretty handy for sessions. :)

Is it March yet?

[whismerhill]

for me GTA4 is more worth it if you really got a "super power computer"

that is if it can handle the max amount of details you really get a feeling of being in real life with the cheer amount of cars on screen in high details
kind of remind me of midtown madness 1 or 2 which allowed to have high car density in a couple of areas and so the player had to really dodge the traffic ... ( but those were in very low detail of course :mrgreen: )

GTA4 also got a few examples (not all though ..) of the best hairs we can do in 3D unlike mass effect for example which are just plain 3D models (on the hair front) (on the player character for example you can almost see each hair and really get a sense of "hair depth" (kind of... if you see what I mean)

for me, what's missing in GTA4 is : unlimited taxi driver missions and also for firetrucks, ambulances, regular trucks, cycles, & the like ...
all the things that allow you to roam the place all around and enjoy the road, cars ......

[StingingVelvet]

It does bug me that GTA4 is pretty much the only game I can't max, but it still looks good at lower settings to me. Putting textures on medium and then cranking the draw distance seems to be the best middleground solution for me.

[Paradigm Shifter]

I've not got the draw distance all the way up on GTA4, but I've got everything else maxed and it plays OK. The game reckons I'm using 1434MB of my 1024MB VRAM (obviously duplicated due to internally CrossFired card) in the menu, but runs fine - the framerate is consistent and smooth.

[Abram]

I should hopeso, with an i7. That game sure eats up processor power. Though the patches did a LOT for stability and performance.

Is it March yet?

[Paradigm Shifter]

Yeah, GTA4 seems to love QPI/HyperTransport, rather than old FSB arrangements. A mates' AMD-based PC plays it fine too.

[whismerhill]

I've not got the draw distance all the way up on GTA4, but I've got everything else maxed and it plays OK. The game reckons I'm using 1434MB of my 1024MB VRAM (obviously duplicated due to internally CrossFired card) in the menu, but runs fine - the framerate is consistent and smooth.

yeah I noticed that GTA4 uses a lot less VRAM than it asks for, in rivatuner hardware monitor

[DaFox]

Holy, there was a nice big update released for GTA4!

http://store.steampowered.com/news/3695/

Rockstar Games Social Club

* Remove Rockstar Games Social Club application
* Separate RGSC application no longer required to launch game
* Social Club login now occurs during the launch process


Shadows

* A new, less memory-intensive, and better-looking scalable shadow solution has been implemented
* Enhanced Night Shadows added with user-selectable level of detail (replaces Shadow Density)


Performance

* Rendering optimizations have been made to improve performance, particularly when enabling shadows
* User-configurable graphics settings have been added for shadow control
* Improved memory management


Multiplayer

* Enhanced security to isolate users from cheaters and hackers


Episodic Content

* Provide in-game support to purchase "The Lost and Damned" and "The Ballad of Gay Tony"


Bug Fixes

* Vehicle shadows re-enabled between 8pm and 6am
* Fix floating street textures
* Pedestrians in vehicles appear further out from the player to allow for long range sniping
* The Moon has been implemented with simulated lunar phases
* RESC 10" error fix for specific hardware configurations

The first two DLC packages are now avaliable on the PC as well!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/12220/


I cannot wait to support this game once I have a PC that can run it decently (needs more cores!)

I love when companys listen to criticism and improve.

[MobsterOO7]

Holy, there was a nice big update released for GTA4!

http://store.steampowered.com/news/3695/

Multiplayer

* Enhanced security to isolate users from cheaters and hackers

Too bad I never see anybody playing... ever.

[Abram]

Shit, i knew there was somethgin else i meant to do today!

Nice release notes.

[Paradigm Shifter]

GTA4 was unlimited activations, which I was still wary of but am able to accept (just). So why does the DLC have a 15 activation limit? Hm? :(

[thales100]

So why does the DLC have a 15 activation limit? Hm? :(

15 ? Looks pretty enough doesnt it ? :lol:

[whismerhill]

O_o ! this seems pretty tasty
might got me to play GTA4 again once I get the budget to get the DLCs ...

however I got used to mods, so I will probably wait until loaders & mods themselves are made compatible

[DaFox]

GTA4 was unlimited activations, which I was still wary of but am able to accept (just). So why does the DLC have a 15 activation limit? Hm? :(

So that you can buy it multiple times of course silly!