Battlefield 2 Widescreen - Definitive Discussion Thread

BrotherEstapol · Post by **BrotherEstapol** » 05 Oct 2005, 14:23

Yeah, I did a test(printed screen in 1400x1050 and 1680x1050) and yeah, we are still getting the top and bottom of the screen chopped off. >_< (turns out, I don't flying the Chinese attack chopper that much to notice the rotor-blades. <_<)

I mean, if the developer behind Call Of Defeat can give you aspect ratio options in their DEMO, you'd think that Dice would be able to fix this one up pretty easily.

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 05 Oct 2005, 14:57

Hopefully as more and more games are made for the XBox 360 with widescreen TV's then more game developers will hopefully leave the option in when they bring out the PC version as they seem to have done with "Call of Duty 2"

BrotherEstapol · Post by **BrotherEstapol** » 06 Oct 2005, 10:34

Lol, I called it Call of Defeat 2!! :lol:

That would make for an interesting game..."Play through the single player campaign were you face defeat on all fronts!"
Finally a game where you get to play as the Germans in WW2! :lol:

But yeah, BF2 widescreen: I've posted again in the EA forum(http://forum.eagames.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1453), perhaps we should consider one of those online petitions...sure, they usually don't work, but it's worth a shot. :)

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 06 Oct 2005, 11:18

LOL ... :lol:

I don't have a lot of faith in EA's ability to listen ... but ...
In this thread ... http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/5807
Walle0 has posted a reply he got from EA sports it is the most encouraging reply I have seen from EA ... all be it EA Sports.
Here is an extract from EA's reply to him that post ...

IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m sorry for the difficulty that you are having with NBA 2006.

Unfortunately the game doesnt support widescreen resolutions the maximum resolution of the game is 1280x1024. This is an issue that has been requested by a huge portion of the community, so EA is evaluating it for an update. Unfortunately there is no certainty right now when it will be solved, sorry.

My feeling is that once EA take on board the widescreen communities concerns for one game we will soon see it spread to other games and as I said in my last post the Xbox 360 thing will also help.

Here's to living in hope that your new game "Call of Defeat 2" will be in glorious widescreen .... :lol:

Post by **Paradigm Shifter** » 06 Oct 2005, 12:16

Y'know, I wouldn't be surprised if the 'huge portion of the community' is the console market. With the XboX360 and PS3 being HD, that requires widescreen.

Hopefully if they code widescreen in to console games, they'll go the same route with PC games - but something makes me sceptical...

espiritiv · Post by **espiritiv** » 07 Oct 2005, 00:43

Confusing, but I think I followed you. Basically you're saying you like the added detail of having 1920 pixels display the same horizontal FOV as 1440 pixels would normally, correct? Ideally, you could enjoy the same increase in resolution by just displaying the 4:3 ratio image at 1920 x 1440 without the cropping. But that would be a pretty weird resolution for most displays.

So does the extra 480 horizontal pixels really make that anti tank weapon that much easier to use? If so, I think you have truly found the only possible reason to crop.

Personally, I think I would be more concerned about not seeing a plane or helicopter above because of the cropped vertical FOV. 8)

I agree that cropping sucks but running at your native resolution will give you a SHARPER image even though you are missing a little bit at the top and bottom. Furthermore, arnt you moving your head up and down looking for Helos anyways? Sorry not trying to be rude, but thanks for contributing so much to this thread......PS EVERYONE GO TO THE EA FORUM AND COMPLAIN about no widescreen support.

espiritiv · Post by **espiritiv** » 07 Oct 2005, 00:47

Hopefully as more and more games are made for the XBox 360 with widescreen TV's then more game developers will hopefully leave the option in when they bring out the PC version as they seem to have done with "Call of Duty 2"

Problem with the Xbox 360 comming out is that since they require all game developers to use HD widescreen resolutions, they have a shortage of games that will be comming out! I just read that at CDnet

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 07 Oct 2005, 08:34

If they require all game developers to use HD widescreen resolutions then that should be a good thing for us ... as ...

I don't think the shortage will be there for long and hopefully the widescreen bit will be left in the games if they bring them out on PC ... we shall see ... :shock: :wink:

espiritiv · Post by **espiritiv** » 07 Oct 2005, 17:12

another thing now is with the new Windows Vista comming out, which will support HD....many monitors that are not HDCP encoded into the hardware already will not be able to view HD content on Windows Vista!!!!!

This is bad news to anyone who bought a LCD or plasma for there computer (W/O HDCP in the hardware) expecting to view High Definition on it in the near future. Could be the same problem for games in High Def. as well. :-(

A blurb on what is HDCP
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/H/HDCP.html

Bydgoszcz · Post by **Bydgoszcz** » 09 Oct 2005, 19:53

I set my BF2 Shortcut to this

"C:...Battlefield 2BF2.exe" +menu 1 +widescreen 1 +szx 1152 +szy 652"

Now I got it up and running and the picture is unbelievable!!! Especially the TV is recognizing it as a 720p signal :)

Now the res should be 1280 x 720 to have "true" 720p but then theres overscan in that picture so thats why the res is brought down.

Now as for everybody complaining about the FOV being chopped, yeah you loose a a bit on the top and bottom, but im sure as hell happy that I can play this in widescreen on my TV, you know what actually until I started reading on this forum I didnt even notice that the picture was cut off a bit.

Remeber widescreen gaming is fairly new in the mainstream public, there still is very little widscreen monitors out there so why would a company spend the resources and money on developing a widescreen game if 95% of the public would have no clue on how to use it. Just my $0.02

With the release of the X360 looming around the corner there will be a huge increase in widescreen gaming because of the development for the X360 and with HDTV to become standard wthin the next 3 years.

kawasakiguy37 · Post by **kawasakiguy37** » 10 Oct 2005, 09:07

What current monitors support HD for Vista?

Talon · Post by **Talon** » 10 Oct 2005, 13:29

Please...how much extra money and resources do you really think it takes to enable widescreen in a game? ;)

No I'm sorry, there is no excuse for BF2 to not have native widescreen support. It's pure laziness by the developers.

Remeber widescreen gaming is fairly new in the mainstream public, there still is very little widscreen monitors out there so why would a company spend the resources and money on developing a widescreen game if 95% of the public would have no clue on how to use it. Just my $0.02

strongmad · Post by **strongmad** » 10 Oct 2005, 13:46

Please...how much extra money and resources do you really think it takes to enable widescreen in a game? ;)

No I'm sorry, there is no excuse for BF2 to not have native widescreen support. It's pure laziness by the developers.

[quote]Remeber widescreen gaming is fairly new in the mainstream public, there still is very little widscreen monitors out there so why would a company spend the resources and money on developing a widescreen game if 95% of the public would have no clue on how to use it. Just my $0.02

Its not lazyness is to stop competitive advantage with bigger viewpoint. There is a fov command but is disabled. I dont agree but what can you do.

Off the top of my head GTA:SA Psychonauts and CoD2 all have native support its just having a menu option thats missing that tweaks the FOV. I would like to see the option available atleast for unranked servers

strongmad · Post by **strongmad** » 10 Oct 2005, 13:51

What current monitors support HD for Vista?

there seems to be a few lurking around from looking at a "HDCP ready TFT" google. I say some info on a 2005fpw killer which had HDCP and 8ms response cant remember where I saw it tho

espiritiv · Post by **espiritiv** » 10 Oct 2005, 17:05

With the release of the X360 looming around the corner there will be a huge increase in widescreen gaming because of the development for the X360 and with HDTV to become standard wthin the next 3 years.

I think the FCC bumped the "final deadline" to 2009.....At least now when i go to the electronic stores i see almost all widescreen.

espiritiv · Post by **espiritiv** » 10 Oct 2005, 17:09

What current monitors support HD for Vista?

I think you will just have to have a monitor that supports HDCP....this is fairly new news that i have read so we might not be out of luck. They might implement something to work around this problem?

Everyone NEEDS to go to the EA website and register so you can post in the forum that was listed a few pages back. We have to let EA know what we want!

KeithM · Post by **KeithM** » 11 Oct 2005, 10:30

[quote]What current monitors support HD for Vista?

there seems to be a few lurking around from looking at a "HDCP ready TFT" google. I say some info on a 2005fpw killer which had HDCP and 8ms response cant remember where I saw it tho

StrongMad, I believe this is the forum link you saw about that 2005fpw killer monitor: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=960883 It's a Gateway and it looks NICE! I'm seriously thinking of buying it.

espiritiv · Post by **espiritiv** » 11 Oct 2005, 17:17

specs sound good, better sale price would be nice since i got my 2005 for $350. Id wait for a review from anandtech or tomshardware to see the "true" response time measurements, not the manufacturers marketing terms.

Back to the BF2 discussion :-)

XenoS · Post by **XenoS** » 13 Oct 2005, 16:48

I got the impression from an earlier post that EA recognizes that WS users make up a very large part of their audience. I submit that all of us wde screen users boycott the expansion pack for Battlefield 2 until our needs are seen to. That might get their attention, don't you think? ;)

espiritiv · Post by **espiritiv** » 13 Oct 2005, 16:53

If they dont support WS in the expansion pack that would be insane!

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