Bioshock 2 - No dedicated servers and display info

[dopefish]

You all missed my post where I said it was developed by a different team than the original. :)

Besides, It partially does work correctly. I've had it stay Hor-/+. Then something I did broke it so it was Vert+ again.

It doesn't bother me too much since I play in 16:9 anyway and that's how it's intended, but I may see if there's any hidden setting or whatever.

[DaFox]

Intended is not always best.

[twEEker]

Give them your 2 cents, community manager claims she is on it.

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=636798&posted=1#post636798

[dopefish]

Intended is not always best.

Of course. People will always have their own preference. I like to stick to how things are intended, but there are definitely times I want to change the camera myself.

Give them your 2 cents, community manager claims she is on it.

This is why I haven't jumped the gun on releasing a fix with Widescreen Fixer. I know they'll patch it just like they did the first one. :)

[StingingVelvet]

Yay, Vert+ gameplay for 4:3!

I admire your efforts, but if they haven't gotten it by now...

Anyway, the FOV is a little cramped but not that bad, I am having a good time with the game. My main problem is that it is more of an expansion than a sequel, as most are these days.

[Abram]

[quote]Eh.. I won't be holding my breath for HOR+, let alone triple-screen.

I expect it to work similar to Bioshock post patch since they are using the same engine and all.

I think someone owes me a drink :)


But at least someone has noticed it:

Originally Posted by 2K Elizabeth
Hey guys,

I am compiling a complete list with a nifty screenshot for you, but in short: Yes, there's a problem, yes, a fix is on the way, yes the view will expand horizontally for you widescreen gamers.

I wanted to let you know as soon as I could - so stay tuned for the details

So we'll see how long it takes them this time around. But I do not expect Eyefinity or Matrox support, honestly. :(

[twEEker]

[quote]Intended is not always best.

Of course. People will always have their own preference. I like to stick to how things are intended, but there are definitely times I want to change the camera myself.

Give them your 2 cents, community manager claims she is on it.

This is why I haven't jumped the gun on releasing a fix with Widescreen Fixer. I know they'll patch it just like they did the first one. :)

This is a Games For Windows Live title, will the patch take forever for Microsoft to give it the A-OK? Maybe this doesn't apply to the PC side but I know on 360 it does. If it does I hope a temp fix comes out, this FOV gives me headache playing. :(

[dopefish]

Seeing as this fix would be a PC-only kind of fix, I think the priority on it will be pretty high.

[DaFox]

This is why I haven't jumped the gun on releasing a fix with Widescreen Fixer. I know they'll patch it just like they did the first one. :)

Yeah It gives them more incentive to fix it faster.

[StingingVelvet]

This is a Games For Windows Live title, will the patch take forever for Microsoft to give it the A-OK? Maybe this doesn't apply to the PC side but I know on 360 it does. If it does I hope a temp fix comes out, this FOV gives me headache playing. :(

Yeah, even if they work up a quick patch overnight it would have to go through weeks of MS certification I bet.

[JohnnyWakko]

Great! Didn't want to play it anyway. BC2 got me all occupied and whot not.

[yogibbear]

Lollerskittles i got banned from the 2k forums for insulting the devs... :rockout

Although it probably was from the DRM thread rather than the widescreen one... ah... the joys of being a mad twatter.

[Paradigm Shifter]

[quote]Just so I understand the scope of this issue, does it effect every version of the game? (PC, 360, PS3)

I was browsing through some screenshots in various sources and it indeed DOES look like its an issue for everyone regardless of the platform.

I am running the PC version meself.

This is just a PC issue. It doesn't impact 360 or PS3 because the game always has a widescreen angle for those versions.
Having found this in the 2K forums, makes me want to rent Bioshock 2 and plug my 360 into a 4:3 monitor... I wonder if the console versions are forced to 16:9?

[dopefish]

The console version likely uses 16:9 (the same view as 16:9 on the PC) and the 4:3 view is anamorphic. This is how almost all 360 games are. They don't render in 4:3 natively, they let the 360 hardware automatically downscale 1280x720 to 640x360 and add black bars (this requires no extra work from the devs).

[DaFox]

http://kotaku.com/5468777/bioshock-2-pc-widescreen-pissing-people-off-again

[packerfan]

No wonder I feel claustrophobic playing it... same with borderlands before the FOV fix...

Hoping the patch comes out soon, it also has a handful of other bugs i noticed.

F is default use key, if you bind use to anything else it works for opening boxes/corpses but you have to hit F to remove the stuff, same for the hack minigame...

[StingingVelvet]

F is default use key, if you bind use to anything else it works for opening boxes/corpses but you have to hit F to remove the stuff, same for the hack minigame...

E works for me for both opening and getting (and everything else).

I did notice the HUD for choosing whether to save or kill a little sister displays default buttons though, which is awkward.

[twEEker]

You can use these temp fixes in the mean time, I can actually play the game now (I think it's better than the first one) with decent FOV until the patch comes out. Here are a few fixes.

=====================================
Changing FOV

(You might need to turn on show all hidden files/folders/etc)

Find the user.ini file located in

(For Vista/WIN7)
C:UsersyournameAppDataRoamingBioshock2

(For XP)
C:Documents and SettingsUsernameApplication
DataBioshock 2

Open it and look for the heading [Default] and look for an unbound key I used Tilde and after that it should look like this

Tilde=SetFov 85.2812718522 for 16:10 screens.
or
Tilde=SetFov 91.3154482287 for 16:9 screens.

You can try whatever FOV you prefer but those are some examples.

================================================================

To Fix the Mouse Acceleration Problem

User.ini and DefUser.ini add

[Engine.PlayerInput]
MouseSmoothingMode=0
MouseAccelThreshold=0.0

================================================================

To Fix Vsync to always off on every game start

Bioshock2SP.ini

Vsync=False

[packerfan]

[quote]F is default use key, if you bind use to anything else it works for opening boxes/corpses but you have to hit F to remove the stuff, same for the hack minigame...

E works for me for both opening and getting (and everything else).

I did notice the HUD for choosing whether to save or kill a little sister displays default buttons though, which is awkward.

Yea this seems to be a YMMV glitch, i have the little sister thing as well. Something is weird.

[StingingVelvet]

Yea this seems to be a YMMV glitch, i have the little sister thing as well. Something is weird.

The game has a ton of little issues like this. I would blame it on the dev team, but the original Bioshock had many of the same problems and that was an entirely different dev team.

I'm enjoying the game though, the "communism gone crazy" story is entertaining and a nice balance with the "capitalism gone crazy" story of the original. Some cool moments already and some decent areas, though level design being worse is definately one of the game's main faults when compared to the original.

All in all a nice expansion but not as good as the main game, and called a sequel for some unknown reason.