Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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Yeah this, the cursor issue, and the fact that putting up my gpu clock even 1mhz in ati overdrive causes artifacts on my side screen is really making me frustrated. I can only use my middle monitor for anything video related because of the line. Having to reboot every time my cursor becomes distorted is happening more frequently. I only hope 10.1 fixes many of these issues and comes out ASAP! I, however, have my doubts on that...
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The other main reason I need to know whats up is because if I do have a defective card the longer I wait the much harder it will be to get some sort of replacement. But I am not going to rip my GPU out and go without a computer for weeks if its just a software/bios/driver problem that can be fixed.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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Well my line issue has been resolved with the 10.1 (8.69) drivers from MSI before they were taken off the site. The other issue of tearing while overclocking on the desktop still exists.

The second issue I noticed is that xfire for the 5970 is broken once again. I'm going to try the drivers on a clean install and see if there is any stablity as my games are still crashing to grey or black screen from time to time.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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I found 10.1 beta drivers off of geeks3d and tried them. This driver is version 8.70 and only seemed to make it worse as it was only on one screen for me before, but now it is on two. Also my games feel a bit more sluggish than before. Hopefully these drivers are actually new and not just the same thing with a spoofed version number to make us believe they are newer.

Edit: OK I have found the 10.1 beta released by MSI, i will try these after i uninstall with driver sweeper my current driver set. Found these on guru3d and they were released about 50 minutes ago. Here is the link if anyone else wants to try em: http://www.guru3d.com/news/ati-catalyst-101-beta--download/

Edit #2: Nope that did not solve the line issue. I will try taking out my nvidia dedicated physx card later to see if that is causing any issues.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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OK removed my 9800gtx and completely uninstalled all its drivers with sweeper. Also reinstalled 8.69 drivers... still have the line
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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Bump.

Is this in any way fixed? I'm using 2 DVI and one native displayport on a 5850 with the 10.3 beta drivers.

I get tearing/the line even with solid framerates and vsync on. It's only on my secondary monitors though...even though the primary one is DVI. Any ideas?

EDIT: My monitors ARE all set to 60Hz also.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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I actually had the tearing on 1 monitor when in eyefinity mode, the line would start at the bottom and move up to the top rinse and repeat.

For me it has something to do with the primary monitor I think... I got rid of my line anyway, and at 1 point I had 2 monitors with the screen tear (sorta) line moving upwards.

and like some of you have said I always keep my monitors in eyefinity mode because its a major pain in the ass fixing bezel managment and I dont know if those lines will come back.

I sorta solved the screen tearing when using crossfire in eyefinity mode for atleast the center monitor.. if you make sure the center monitor is your primary monitor, you shouldnt notice any tearing on that monitor. Having any screen tearing sucks but its definatly more managable having the tearing occur on the periphial monitors.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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Bump.

Is this in any way fixed? I'm using 2 DVI and one native displayport on a 5850 with the 10.3 beta drivers.

I get tearing/the line even with solid framerates and vsync on. It's only on my secondary monitors though...even though the primary one is DVI. Any ideas?

EDIT: My monitors ARE all set to 60Hz also.


Are all your monitors the same? Mine weren't and I found the only fix was to do a simple EDID edit. It was not an EDID flash or anything that could permanently damage your monitor so this process is not risky at all.

Required Programs:
Moninfo
Phoenix EDID Designer

Instructions-
Step 1:
Open Phoenix EDID Designer and click on Tools-> Extract Registry EDID...
Then it should come up with a list of monitors, double click one that is not giving you problems. Here is what mine looks like-

as you can see i selected my Acer monitor.

Step 2
Click on File-> Save EDID as... and save the name to whatever you want. I named mine AcerEDID. This will create a new .dat file which will be opened into Monifo.

Step 3
Open Moninfo and select File-> Open and navigate to your saved .dat file. Now click on File-> Create INF file. Keep it the same name (monitor.inf), and save to your documents folder.

Step 4
Right click desktop and click screen resolution (Make sure you're not in an eyefinity setup for this step) and select your problem monitor. Right click the monitor and select properties. Click on the Monitor tab, and then click the properties button from there.

You should now be at the properties for your problem monitor:

(mine already has the EDID override in place)

Step 5
Click on Driver tab. Then click on "Update driver..." then "Browse my computer for driver software" then "Let me pick..." then "Have Disk..." then "Browse". Now navigate to your documents folder, where the monitor.inf was saved. Select your "monitor.inf" and click open. Now select your EDID Overdrive from the list and click next.

Here is a more visual version of this step :) -----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQSEjUeDyXk
I cancel all the windows because I have already done this, but for you hit next.

And your done! If i did not work, try setting the EDID Overdrive .inf file for all your monitors used in eyefinity. If it still does not work then i do not what will :?
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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This issue is caused by low Clocks on the card when in 2d mode with 3 screens

You need to set a 2d profile in MSI Ocing tool, Once i had it 500 / 800 i never saw tearing again.
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This issue is caused by low Clocks on the card when in 2d mode with 3 screens

You need to set a 2d profile in MSI Ocing tool, Once i had it 500 / 800 i never saw tearing again.


I can see that being the case in desktop but not in games, I see tearing in the same place even in full blown 3d games.
Plus MSI Ocing tool? does that work with any brand card?
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Are all your monitors the same? Mine weren't and I found the only fix was to do a simple EDID edit. It was not an EDID flash or anything that could permanently damage your monitor so this process is not risky at all.


They aren't...but something odd seems to be happening there. I use a pair of 2208wfp and a p2210 (with DP). One of the 2208wfps is the primary central monitor. This never has the line problem, nor does the p2210. It seems odd that only one of the two similar monitors would have a problem.

Thanks for the detailed instructions though. I'll give them a go for sure and report back with my findings


I actually had the tearing on 1 monitor when in eyefinity mode, the line would start at the bottom and move up to the top rinse and repeat.

For me it has something to do with the primary monitor I think... I got rid of my line anyway, and at 1 point I had 2 monitors with the screen tear (sorta) line moving upwards.

and like some of you have said I always keep my monitors in eyefinity mode because its a major pain in the ass fixing bezel managment and I dont know if those lines will come back.


Sounds just like me. The line travels. I've always been happy to switch between eyefinity and extended desktop modes though , its only 2 clicks, bezel management stays applied.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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This issue is caused by low Clocks on the card when in 2d mode with 3 screens

You need to set a 2d profile in MSI Ocing tool, Once i had it 500 / 800 i never saw tearing again.


I doubt it. My 5850 is a recent one with 2d clocks set to 400/900 by default anyway, and the line appears in 3d programs.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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Update for anyone suffering the same problem....

i tried the method described to force them to use the same driver- no change. I tried each monitor's driver on every monitor, none of them made the slightest difference.

BUT! Changed the primary monitor in CCC to the problem one (after having enabled my eyefinity profile), and all of them are fine now!

No idea why that worked. But hopefully this will helpe other people with the issue. Cheers guys!
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I have 3 identical monitors Dell U2410's and also using a native display port connection so no adapters and have the problem on usually 2 monitors. Currently my left and center monitors have it.

So its not related to EDID or anything like that. Its a card/drivers problem for sure. If overclocking makes it worse (and it does make it way worse) it seems to me its a sync issue and some cards seem to have it worse than others so I think it may be related to the quality of the card itself. Sucks because while I can deal with the line, I cant overclock at all because it gets so much worse that its unbearable.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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I fixed this problem by setting a different monitor as the preferred monitor. In the bottom left of control center it has icons for the three monitors. Right click them and you'll get the option to set one as preferred. First time I did it the distortion line moved to the other monitor, but then I set it to the third and if went away.
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I fixed this problem by setting a different monitor as the preferred monitor. In the bottom left of control center it has icons for the three monitors. Right click them and you'll get the option to set one as preferred. First time I did it the distortion line moved to the other monitor, but then I set it to the third and if went away.


I have to try this, but thats not a great fix when I want the center monitor to be my primary, I use landscape mode a lot for normal every day work/use and only use eyefinity once in a blue moon for gaming.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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It doesn't actually change your center monitor. It seem to prioritize which monitor you want as primary when you turn the other monitors off.
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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I fixed this problem by setting a different monitor as the preferred monitor. In the bottom left of control center it has icons for the three monitors. Right click them and you'll get the option to set one as preferred. First time I did it the distortion line moved to the other monitor, but then I set it to the third and if went away.



Thank you from so long ago. This resolved the issue for me. I have seen that odd line on my far right monitor and thought it was odd but didn't care much while gaming in eyefinity. But then my DP seemed to act up and I changed to the 2nd DP on my 6950 and seemed to help my other artifact/clipping out issue. But then when I gamed the next time I noticed that odd line was now dead center and very annouying. I didn't find any actual fix until I read this to the last page and this worked for me. No line anymore. Excellent, time to store this in my known fixes in case a forget down the road.

I know this is over a year old BUT THANKS!!!
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Re: Eyefinity - "The Line" problem

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I fixed this problem by setting a different monitor as the preferred monitor. In the bottom left of control center it has icons for the three monitors. Right click them and you'll get the option to set one as preferred. First time I did it the distortion line moved to the other monitor, but then I set it to the third and if went away.



Thank you from so long ago. This resolved the issue for me. I have seen that odd line on my far right monitor and thought it was odd but didn't care much while gaming in eyefinity. But then my DP seemed to act up and I changed to the 2nd DP on my 6950 and seemed to help my other artifact/clipping out issue. But then when I gamed the next time I noticed that odd line was now dead center and very annouying. I didn't find any actual fix until I read this to the last page and this worked for me. No line anymore. Excellent, time to store this in my known fixes in case a forget down the road.

I know this is over a year old BUT THANKS!!!
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