Buying a next-gen console

DaFox · Post by **DaFox** » 02 Jun 2008, 03:04

3 yr warranty, it only covers RRoD failures and there is likely a way they can tell if you've actually had one. The standard warranty is only 1 yr.

A friend of mine sent his xbox in for some reason, said it was RRoD even though it wasnt, they fixed it right up for free and he was well past his 1yr warrenty.

Dem Pyros · Post by **Dem Pyros** » 02 Jun 2008, 03:19

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Here's a better example, Say I buy the top 9 games, and I download patches/mapacks for them ... will that fill that 20GB HDD b/c buying the Elite only allows me to buy 2 games with it.

No, but thing are increasing in size. Each arcade is 150mb (now increasing to 250mb), demos are .5mb to 1gig, and mappacks are usually .25gb or greater.

So you won't run out of space immediately, but you'll regret it when you have to fork over 100+ for one later.

Ascii_Aficionado · Post by **Ascii_Aficionado** » 02 Jun 2008, 03:32

I assume I need a gold membership to play online, How many months if any @ all does the Elite come with ?

Frag Maniac · Post by **Frag Maniac** » 02 Jun 2008, 03:46

A friend of mine sent his xbox in for some reason, said it was RRoD even though it wasnt, they fixed it right up for free and he was well past his 1yr warrenty.

Are you implying he never had RRoD, not even once? I wouldn't count on getting a fix that isn't actually included in the terms of service. The units might be made in such a way that a RRoD occurance is logged somehow. Anyways, it's clear that the quality control on the 360 is not as good as the PS3. They only have more titles, it's the only thing going for the 360 IMO. Many of those titles are sports games though, so if you're not into those you really aren't getting a better selection.

DaFox · Post by **DaFox** » 02 Jun 2008, 03:49

[quote]A friend of mine sent his xbox in for some reason, said it was RRoD even though it wasnt, they fixed it right up for free and he was well past his 1yr warrenty.

Are you implying he never had RRoD, not even once? I wouldn't count on getting a fix that isn't actually included in the terms of service. The units might be made in such a way that a RRoD occurance is logged somehow. Anyways, it's clear that the quality control on the 360 is not as good as the PS3. They only have more titles, it's the only thing going for the 360 IMO. Many of those titles are sports games though, so if you're not into those you really aren't getting a better selection.

Hes never had a RROD, the problem was something with his CD drive, and they replaced the drive. They upgraded his heatsink too

Frag Maniac · Post by **Frag Maniac** » 02 Jun 2008, 04:37

Hes never had a RROD, the problem was something with his CD drive, and they replaced the drive. They upgraded his heatsink too

You probably mean the DVD drive? They had lots of problems with older ones scratching discs and even got into a law suit over it, so naturally they're going to fix that. I maintain, this one story does not indicate they are in the habit of always covering breakdowns after the 1 yr warranty is up, unless it's RRoD wiithin 3 yrs time or in this case it appears an older DVD drive. The mechanism that holds the disc in place on those were faulty and prone to lots of noise. They put a new quiet type in Feb of '07.

There are lots of things that can fail on a 360, the PSUs aren't very good either.

DaFox · Post by **DaFox** » 02 Jun 2008, 04:55

[quote]Hes never had a RROD, the problem was something with his CD drive, and they replaced the drive. They upgraded his heatsink too

You probably mean the DVD drive? They had lots of problems with older ones scratching discs and even got into a law suit over it, so naturally they're going to fix that. I maintain, this one story does not indicate they are in the habit of always covering breakdowns after the 1 yr warranty is up, unless it's RRoD wiithin 3 yrs time or in this case it appears an older DVD drive. The mechanism that holds the disc in place on those were faulty and prone to lots of noise. They put a new quiet type in Feb of '07.

There are lots of things that can fail on a 360, the PSUs aren't very good either.

Yes DVD drive of course, Im still old fashion and call all Optical Media CD's.

I believe It got jammed or wouldn't read disks or something like that. He had a samsung and they replaced it with a BenQ. The only reason they did it free was that he said it had RRoD, Its a new 'scam' going around. Others have had good luck with it too. Basically all you have to say is that you have RRoD, and you extend your warrenty to 3 years.

Dem Pyros · Post by **Dem Pyros** » 02 Jun 2008, 05:19

I assume I need a gold membership to play online, How many months if any @ all does the Elite come with ?

Each console, no matter which, comes with 3 "one month free trial" subscriptions to Xbox Live. They cannot be applied to an existing account, however. (So you only get one month free, unless you choose to give up on your achievements, online information and game saves :()

Frag Maniac · Post by **Frag Maniac** » 02 Jun 2008, 05:29

I believe It got jammed or wouldn't read disks or something like that. He had a samsung and they replaced it with a BenQ. The only reason they did it free was that he said it had RRoD, Its a new 'scam' going around. Others have had good luck with it too. Basically all you have to say is that you have RRoD, and you extend your warrenty to 3 years.

Yes, that's the new quiet drive I was talking about. It's a BenQ/Lite-On/Philips collaboration.

On the RRoD, if it's that easy to scam them they certainly must be making way too much on those things. It does prove my point of the warranty only being extended beyond 1 yr if it's RRoD though, unless you lie your butt off of course. LOL

If they eventually go to a hardware failure logging sytem via the OS or a separate memory chip, these consumer scams will become a thing of the past. To do that however they'll have to build them solid in the first place.

Ascii_Aficionado · Post by **Ascii_Aficionado** » 02 Jun 2008, 06:11

Well snap, Paypal says the transfer to my bank account completed 40 mins ago, the money isn't showing up in my account yet so I'm assuming it just hasn't updated yet. So that means When I get up in 8 hours it's SHOPPING TIME.

Dem Pyros · Post by **Dem Pyros** » 02 Jun 2008, 06:59

Well snap, Paypal says the transfer to my bank account completed 40 mins ago, the money isn't showing up in my account yet so I'm assuming it just hasn't updated yet. So that means When I get up in 8 hours it's SHOPPING TIME.

IMO game to buy first is Call of Duty 4. It takes around 20 days of game time to complete everything including the online portion. And no, that's not an exaggeration.

A must buy accessory: Play and charge kit. Comes with a rechargable battery and a charge cable. Never buy batteries again :)

Ascii_Aficionado · Post by **Ascii_Aficionado** » 02 Jun 2008, 13:00

I actually have to wait a few days for it to show up in my account according to what everyone else I talked to says even though paypal says it completed, so I have a few more days to think about what I want to get.

CoD 4 isn't going to be my first buy, if I get the Elite I can only get 2 games and I would probably pick Halo 3 and Lost Odyssey.

infernus · Post by **infernus** » 02 Jun 2008, 15:05

Holy crap, I go out for a day and you guys hit 3 pages with this?

It's good that I don't need to convince you to get a 360, since that's what everyone's already pointed you towards. I think it's 5 free Gold accounts per new console though, not sure. Not really worth it unless you're broke and REALLY wanna play online.
As far as the HDD goes, I don't think you really need it...I've played like 12 games so far and most of them have mappacks and stuff (lol Oblivion). I've still got 7GB left, after I've downloaded some large demos/an HD video or two. Which reminds me, I should go watch that Mass Effect special thing.. D:

Ascii_Aficionado · Post by **Ascii_Aficionado** » 02 Jun 2008, 15:54

Holy crap, I go out for a day and you guys hit 3 pages with this?

I was thinking that too, I'm very pleased and surprised with the responses to my thread

Ascii_Aficionado · Post by **Ascii_Aficionado** » 02 Jun 2008, 16:35

http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage.jsp?id=1186006783614&skuId=8514182&type=product

An Elite with 2 free games, 1 of them being half decent

BlueMak · Post by **BlueMak** » 02 Jun 2008, 18:04

They are good games, but you will not feel impressed by their looks.

Dem Pyros · Post by **Dem Pyros** » 02 Jun 2008, 22:38

I think it's 5 free Gold accounts per new console though, not sure. Not really worth it unless you're broke and REALLY wanna play online.

It's only three.

Honestly, if you're going online COD4 is a better game than Halo 3 (too many juveniles on Halo). If you're going to wait to go online, the campaign for Halo 3 is much better.

Ascii_Aficionado · Post by **Ascii_Aficionado** » 03 Jun 2008, 00:41

Sigh, I'm just passing time until I guess my bank clears the incoming transfer b/c paypal says it completed.

Has anyone transfered money From Paypal to their bank account and had it say completed but it didn't show up in their bank account yet ? I've never transferred Paypal > bank account before so I'm kinda worried.

I'll pass on CoD 4 for a while, Halo 3 multiplayer is what I want to start off with.

Dem Pyros · Post by **Dem Pyros** » 03 Jun 2008, 01:06

I'll pass on CoD 4 for a while, Halo 3 multiplayer is what I want to start off with.

Take it with a grain of salt, Halo 3 is generally considered to be the worst multiplayer community experience on XBL.

DaFox · Post by **DaFox** » 03 Jun 2008, 02:00

I wouldent worry about it Ascii, transfering from bank account to paypal does the same thing, and it takes like a week. Give it a few more days, If its not done by Thursday or friday Then i would start to get worried.

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