Matrox TH2G Update ? for better resolution on Widescreens?

avioni · Post by **avioni** » 20 Feb 2008, 05:31

did you post a link to this thread? you should. and also people STOP BUYING TRIPLEHEAD2GO UNTIL THEY HAVE SUPPORT FOR ALL RESOLUTIONS. THIS IS A RIPOFF IF YOU HAVE TO PAY $300 OR MORE EVERYTIME JUST FOR NEW RESOLUTIONS. stop making the rich richer be wise and demand good quality product from the begining.

Post by **Paddy the Wak** » 20 Feb 2008, 09:48

Interesting bit

I think announcements for this will not be publicized before mid year.
Regards,
means somethings must be happening.

Yeah that does sound promising ... :D

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fuzzystyle · Post by **fuzzystyle** » 20 Feb 2008, 23:17

I hate when one company has control over a certain market.
It's a shame no one gives multiple monitor support in more games. Softth proves it's not THAT big of an addition, but game company's are lazy/dont care.

I don't mind spending 300 extra bucks for an adaptor to make it work, I wouldn't even mind if it were more then that if it supported 5040x1050... We can put a man on the moon, but three monitor gaming is a huge obstacle.

(Sorry if i ranted here a little, i just blew 1000 bucks on my three monitor set up only to find out it's unsupported in most games.)

Billes · Post by **Billes** » 25 Feb 2008, 19:01

I'm gonna throw in my support for the new higher resolutions as well. I have 3 22" monitors, so I'd love to see 3x1680x1050 supported on the TripleHead2Go, especially if all it would take is a firmware update (which I am increasingly led to believe).

peppergomez · Post by **peppergomez** » 29 Feb 2008, 08:09

ditto....i would really like to be able to run 4800x1200 or the widescreen equivalent. and b/c that is the next most logical step for matrox, it wouldn't seem wise to buy the triplehead2go until they announce if it will be a firmware fix or will require buying a different, newer piece of hardware.

avioni · Post by **avioni** » 01 Mar 2008, 05:00

how bout the asus 3870x2 with 4 dvi outputs? anyone know if that supports conecting the 3 monitors to it ans spaning across them.

RKipker · Post by **RKipker** » 22 Mar 2008, 16:23

I'm on board here... I'm so surprised at the poor support for this product. I hope they work on it.

Post by **Mach1.9pants** » 24 Mar 2008, 05:48

I'd buy a new one, I have a 24" dell, and another 2 (of the cheaper ones) would be great for 5760x1200.... all shades of awesome that would be :)

AFAIK the 3870x2 series is capable of 4 independent displays (like the 88GTX can do 2) but you can't span games across them

Billes · Post by **Billes** » 27 Mar 2008, 22:44

So who feels like starting a petition to Matrox? For now I'd be happy to just know whether getting 5040x1050 out of my TH2Go is a Firmware or Hardware limitation. I've heard both answers from people within Matrox, so it sounds like they aren't even sure. Can anyone say with certainty which it is?

Mesh · Post by **Mesh** » 27 Mar 2008, 23:57

5040x1050 is beyond the maximum possible on a dual-link dvi cable so I'd say the limit isn't strictly on the TH2G.

However, a newer model could use a video card's dual dual-link outputs to make it possible, that and 5760x1200.

Billes · Post by **Billes** » 28 Mar 2008, 23:28

As far as I'm aware 5040x1050 is possible on a dual-link DVI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVI

Mesh · Post by **Mesh** » 29 Mar 2008, 00:23

Yeah it is, I mistakenly thought 2560x1600 was max possible, it isnt. 5040x1050 is getting close to the limit but it fits.

WaveZtream · Post by **WaveZtream** » 29 Mar 2008, 00:51

Give 1680x1050!! There is no excuse :)

JKeefe · Post by **JKeefe** » 02 Apr 2008, 22:09

So what exactly is the maximum dual-link DVI resolution? I stare at that wikipedia page every once in a while and I still can't figure it out.

ithrial · Post by **ithrial** » 02 Apr 2008, 22:35

From what I could tell, the max res of dual link is 3840x1200 ( 1920x1200x2) there are some monitors that float around that support that resolution, but they are high dollar monitors for X-ray viewing and things like that...WQUXGA is what the resolution is called

Billes · Post by **Billes** » 03 Apr 2008, 07:04

The maximum bandwidth of a Dual-link DVI cable is 7.92 Gbit/s

With 48 bits/pixel:

7.92 Gbit / 60 Hz / 48 = 2.75 megapixels.

With 24 bits/pixel:

7.92 Gbit / 60 Hz / 24 = 5.5 megapixels.

This gives us a maximum resolution of 5.5 megapixels to play with when using 24bits/px.

Seeing as:

5040 x 1050 = 5.292 megapixels,

It fits within (although barely) the 5.5 megapixel limit.

Hopefully this helps clarify it for some people! And if any of it's wrong, I take no responsibility because it's just what I've tried to make sense of from the wikipedia page :)

JKeefe · Post by **JKeefe** » 03 Apr 2008, 17:09

Makes sense to me. I didn't know how many bits there are per pixel, which was holding me up.

I assume 24 bits/pixel is standard?

Billes · Post by **Billes** » 03 Apr 2008, 17:41

As far as I could tell, yes.

windturbin · Post by **windturbin** » 03 Apr 2008, 17:56

Hello fellow WSGFer's

This is what Matrox answer was to me when I asked them if they would or could increase resolutions for TH2G in the future.....

The maximum resolutions are largely determined by VESA (Video Electronics Standards Association) compliance standards which dictate a maximum number of pixelsâ€”currently 4000 horizontallyâ€”which can be outputted per port. For this reason, Matrox does not know if or when higher maximum resolutions will be supported.

They are basically saying that VESA dictates what they are capable of doing. So therefore the way I see it, VESA is the source to which should draw our attention?

http://www.vesa.org/

Apparently, technologies must be approved by VESA before they can be incorporated into the open market.

Click "press room" for recent VESA meetings with companies presenting there technology. You can see what might be coming in the future.

Unfortunately, I don't see any news that might help Matrox have the ability to increase the resolutions of TH2G.

Based on Matrox answer to me, the only hope for increasing the horizontal resolution would be for VESA to allow more maximum pixels per port?

My question is where or why did VESA come up with the number of 4000 pixels per port? And will this be increased in the future? What would it take to be able to increase?

Maybe someone here has that knowledge or can find something pertaining to this on the VESA site and translate it into english?

JKeefe · Post by **JKeefe** » 03 Apr 2008, 19:11

So if the TripleHead2Go is made to be not compliant with VESA, but we get 5040x1080, what are the ramifications of that? I don't recall seeing any "VESA" labeling on my TripleHead2Go packaging...

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