F1 Challenge 99-02 SURROUND .cfg file?

JKeefe · Post by **JKeefe** » 25 Mar 2008, 22:35

Be aware that "VIDEOMODE" numbers will correspond to different resolutions for different PCs. An unfortunate way of configuring graphics options...

RKipker · Post by **RKipker** » 27 Mar 2008, 01:56

First, thanks for the support... I will try your suggestin this weekend when I have time to play... I will post back info.

No, new drivers were installed in Jan. TH2G gives me problems enough, mostly the SGU and GXM programs, always failing.

New video drivers may make things worst...LOL. However, the drivers in Jan 2008 were out long before this patch for F1C.

I have the same problem in F1 2002 and they TH2G / Matrox web site claims the TH2G supports the F1 2002 game. Which it does not.

Anyway, I tried to edit the cfg file and did not help... I'm really disappointed, and the support at Matrox simply close at 5pm central std time and are located in Canada w/o a toll free number, but they do offer free support... another joke... LOL

Not mad and thanks for the help, I would really like to get these two games to work.

TH2G works for me for the following games:

Dirt
GTR2
GTL
Race 07
rFactor
Rally Sport (thaks Paddy)
Cyrsis
FAR
Gears of War

Does not work with
GPL (game crashes... and I used the All-in-one-patch
Moto GP 08
F1 2002
F1 C
UAZ Truck racing

JKeefe · Post by **JKeefe** » 27 Mar 2008, 05:04

Does not work with
GPL (game crashes... and I used the All-in-one-patch

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but GPL works just fine. I suggest you install the 2004 demo and use that as a base; you can add the original tracks from an original CD if you wish. Less patching this way.

If you run in DX you need to use 1920x480. In OpenGL mode you can use up to 3840x1024. I have GPL working just fine, so the problem is somewhere on your end.

RKipker · Post by **RKipker** » 27 Mar 2008, 15:26

I understand... I purchased the new re-release CD from Sold out. software. Then I D/L all the latest patches. started with the new _all-in-one installer from the GPL site.

For some reason the game crashes from the beginning.

I will try your suggestions.

I notice I'm having GXM problems and will be calling the Matrox Folks today, working from home.

I would love to have the GPL game running in OpenGL...!

Thanks again for suggestions.

RKip

funk192 · Post by **funk192** » 27 Mar 2008, 15:29

For softTH users I have an idea about how to fix this issue with the vertical bits on top and bottom being cut off and the fact that you can't adjust vertical field of view to fix it. Since we have an option to adjust the horizontal field of view, maybe we can just use a 4:3 resolution like say 1600x1200 and then divide the horizontal res by 3, we get 533.333, but its not a equally dividable resolution, so I guess we just use 532 + 2 border=left screen, 532=middle, 532 + 2 border=right screen to make it add up to 1600. So we have 532x1200 resolutions for all screens. We would need to add these custom resolutions in the driver for all monitors(easier with Nvidia cards). Now by default F1 Challenge should render the whole vertical field of view instead of cutting the top and bottom parts. What we should have now is a horizontally stretched picture over the whole 3 screens all up. So all we would need to do is multiply the horizontal field of view by three I think, and hopefully after all this we would have a correct aspect ratio. I'm going to experiment with this and see what I can do, for you Matrox TH / TH2GO users I don't know if and how it would work, what happens when you run a 4:3 resolution? does it split it by three to all screens? If so this may work also but I think you probably might need a custom resolution of 1602x1200 so it splits it up evenly, but that would mean that you'd need F1 Challenge config to support that resolution. Anyway hope this helps everyone. :wink:

RKipker · Post by **RKipker** » 27 Mar 2008, 17:29

OK... working on F1C 99-02.

I redownloaded the files and unzipped and copied them over the 3D config and F1.exe files

The readme also says to edit the following:

edit Default.cfg (in save folder) to change FOV and other parameters.

Is this my problem... which files to edit and what to put. Do I need to do this before or after I run the 3D edit config program?

I do have a Digital TH2G and the latest GXM/SGU utilities released this month.

I still do not have any resolutions higher then 1680X900 (not 1050)

Also, I tried to edit the config.ini to the correct Videomode... =124 and the game crashes on when dbl clicking the desktop icon

PLease continue to help me.... the matrox support is useless when it comes to this type of help.

Thanks guys
Randall

RKipker · Post by **RKipker** » 27 Mar 2008, 18:05

Can anyone tell me what to edit the FOV settings to?

I notice that the link to D/L the file for F1C with TH2G states you must edit this file... and the link for information posted is a dead link to a Matrox Website forum.

See info:
F1 Challenge 99-02
F1 Challenge 99-02 (600) 30-
Dec-2003 15:05 1.25 MB
You need to adjust FOV.
see this topic on Matrox's Forum
http://forum.matrox.com/mga/viewtopic.php?t=3463
F1 Challenge GTR2002 Mod (309) 30-Dec-2003 15:08 1.25 MB Link to GTR2002 Mod

Therefore, I can not get this info.

It seems to me that I should be able to run these two games... both the 3Dconfig programs run but do not offer any higher resoultion as I stated earlier.

Thanks guys
RK

JKeefe · Post by **JKeefe** » 27 Mar 2008, 19:13

for you Matrox TH / TH2GO users I don't know if and how it would work, what happens when you run a 4:3 resolution? does it split it by three to all screens? If so this may work also but I think you probably might need a custom resolution of 1602x1200 so it splits it up evenly, but that would mean that you'd need F1 Challenge config to support that resolution.

Won't work on a TripleHead2Go for two main reasons.

1. single screen resolutions sent to the TripleHead2Go will display only on a single monitor.

2. Custom resolutions are not available for use with the TripleHead2Go.

MatroxRulez · Post by **MatroxRulez** » 27 Mar 2008, 19:30

RKipker, you can find the information about the FOV adjustment in this particular thread (3rd post). However, it will not help you if you can't get surround resolutions. Maybe you can start the game in a windowed mode and then maximaze it across all three displays.

Hello,

You could be using my settings, because I did post some settings for this game at Matrox Tech Support Forums. I think that it was actually me, who said that we needed different type of camera settings for each car.

This was my settings for Ferrari car in "default.cfg" file:

LocalCam=COCKPIT
{
Fov=(107.000000, 62.500000)
Clear=TRUE
Color=(164, 218, 249)
ClipPlanes=(0.100000, 500.000000)
LODMultiplier=(1.000000)
MipmapLODBias=(-1.500000)
Size=(1.000000, 1.000000)
Center=(0.500000, 0.500000)
Flags1=(0)
Flags2=(0)
RadiusLimits=(0.000000, 0.000000)
OrientationRate=(35.000000, 35.000000, 25.000000)
PositionOffset=(0.000000, 0.20000000, 7.900000) (Left-Right, Up-Down, Back,Forward)
OrientationOffset=(-0.030000, -0.000000, 0.000000)
Radius=(-7.500000)
}

http://personal.inet.fi/private/matrox.rulez/games/f1/ferrari2003.jpg

Well, I never had the time or the interest to optimize the camera settings for other cars. It's a shame that the game doesn't really support adjustable FOV like GTR, GTR2 and rFactor, for example. In many ways, these games look very similar to F1 Challenge 99-02.

MatroxRulez · Post by **MatroxRulez** » 27 Mar 2008, 19:44

The readme also says to edit the following:

edit Default.cfg (in save folder) to change FOV and other parameters.

Is this my problem... which files to edit and what to put.

Only the file Default.cfg.
See my previous post for the cockpit camera (for Ferrari).

Do I need to do this before or after I run the 3D edit config program?

It doesn't matter. You can do it in both ways.

RKipker · Post by **RKipker** » 27 Mar 2008, 20:01

Yes, I seen that... and tried it... though I only adjusted the first line.

No change and still the higher resolutions are not seen by the program.

Should I use the FOV for the incockpit only? Seems to me the problem is in the config.ini first.

Thanks
Randall

MatroxRulez · Post by **MatroxRulez** » 27 Mar 2008, 20:53

This FOV setting will only modify the position, tilt and height of the incar cockpit camera. It will replace the section LocalCam=COCKPIT in a Default.cfg file. This will not give you any higher resolutions.

I don't know why the 3DConfig program will not show any higher resolutions for you. I can only suggest you to re-install the game, your video drivers or Matrox TripleHead2Go software. :(

RKipker · Post by **RKipker** » 28 Mar 2008, 12:17

Thanks MatroxRulez,

I figured that, I manipulate the FOV in GTR2 quite a bit....!

I checked the Nvidia site yesterday for newer drivers and the latest are from Dec. 2007 from what i could see.... which are what I'm running.

I've reinstalled the game so many times I know the key number by memory.... LOL

It's really got me stumped, cause I'm not that computer ignorant... :)

Also, I did finally get GPL to work, however I'm still getting the standard "windows encountered a problem and will close the program sorry for the inconvenience" whatever.... though the game will load right after and using the OpenGL Rast DLL for wide screen I was able to run the 3840X960 widescreen resolution.

After all that, I realized that the 1967 mod for rFactor is so much better and the tracks are so much better that it' wasn't worth the effort except to have the Big Daddy game running....!

More than likely, I would feel the same way with F1.... though I really wanted it to run in widescreen. I will try again once I find new video card drivers.

Thanks guys for all the help, I think I have the right files, but there is something screwed up with my system, but I'm not sure what.

BTW... my system specs:

Asus Striker Motherboard
Intel E6850
Dual Nvidia GTX 8800 O'clocked Ultra's
4GB O'clocked Ram

MatroxRulez · Post by **MatroxRulez** » 28 Mar 2008, 14:44

You're welcome. I hope you get your .dll problems solved.

In the mean time, just try different mods for rFactor. Some of them are very good and you'll get the proper FOV in rFactor. In F1C 99-02 it'll always be far from perfect.

RKipker · Post by **RKipker** » 28 Mar 2008, 20:50

Yeah, your right! I've been playing rFactor and GTR2 for the past two years. I have all the great mods.... from the 1955 F1, Indy Cars, All the tin tops, ALMS/LMS series cars and many others. However, VituralR are converting the Prototype C mod from F1 99-02 to the rFactor now.

Anyway, I got the game running in the 1680X1050 which in F1 is fine.... cause a rarely play it... just want it... :)

Cya and I'll look you up if I figure out the problems.
RK

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