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Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 06:46
by xetura
Well, so far I've had the monitor go out once DIRECTLY after I moved my mouse and the monitors "turned on". It came back though shortly thereafter. I haven't had this issue while playing games though(at least so far). Before when it went out, it would never turn back on, so while it's not perfect now, it IS better. Will report back if it happens again.
EDIT: I moved both DVI connections to the two plugs furthest from the motherboard and kept the DP connection on the plug closest to the MB. Going to see if it makes a difference.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 08:59
by xetura
Ok, something interesting happened a min ago. I have a dvi cable that goes from the DP monitor to my triplehead2go(from when I had my 4870). I went back behind the computer, unhooked it from the th2go and routed it through my mess of cables so I could hook it up to my other computer. Before hooking it up to that computer, I noticed the DP screen went off. I tried the usual stuff, but it just wouldn't come back on. After unplugging and plugging in the cable, switching ends a couple times, the last time I unhooked it from the mini-dp adapter and plugged it back it, voila! It turned on. I'm very suspicious about the adapter connection and think it could be the problem. I'm going to order a mini-dp to dp cable from monoprice and see if it fixes the problem. Hopefully eliminating the multiple connections will work, but I'm crossing my fingers.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 22:28
by xetura
I also just exchanged my regular DP cable for a different one and so far so good. But that's what I thought before. :P Should take a few days to get the 1 piece cable I want, but hopefully this will hold me over until it gets here.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 05 Aug 2010, 22:20
by xetura
I played darkfall ALL DAY(12 hours) and didn't have a SINGLE incident. Looks like the cable might have been bunk after all. I'll continue my testing and report back.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 06:51
by magnet699
Hi there,
I have the same problem here. The monitor connected to the ACCELL display port adapter blanks out every now and then. I have to log out and then log back in.
I have a triple-monitor eyefinity setup and a sapphire 5870 1 gig.
This is actually my second adapter from amazon, hoping the first one was defective, but nope, same issue.
It is really frustrating. I spent a lot of money on this setup and I expect it to work.
I did not try earlier versions of the catalyst drivers, and but I do have the latest graphic bios dated May 2010 which was supplied to me by Sapphire.

Any ideas guys, has anyone made progress in finding out what to do about this. This is beginning to be more of a headache than it's worth.

** FYI: I just checked the adapter FW version, it's 2.00
Thanks,

Karim

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 00:22
by stangflyer
I played darkfall ALL DAY(12 hours) and didn't have a SINGLE incident. Looks like the cable might have been bunk after all. I'll continue my testing and report back.

I have had my 5970 for 8 months or so. Was using a dvi monitor with a dp to vga adapter. Was having dropouts. After a month went dell native dp monitor with a mini dp to dp cable.

Have not had a dropout in 6 months. :rockout

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 05:08
by hunuok
After months of not being able to use Cat 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 and 10.7 due to flickering DP issues, I have found a solution.

1. I believe it's the DP adapter. I just ordered an Accell B087B-003J Mini DP adapter with firmware 2.0. I previously used an Accell B087B-002B with old firmware.

2. The DP adapter should be plugged in a wall mounted USB adapter.

No more flickering or shutting off issues.

Will monitor and post if problems.

I am using Cat 10.7 Hotfix.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 05:10
by xetura
[quote]I played darkfall ALL DAY(12 hours) and didn't have a SINGLE incident. Looks like the cable might have been bunk after all. I'll continue my testing and report back.

I have had my 5970 for 8 months or so. Was using a dvi monitor with a dp to vga adapter. Was having dropouts. After a month went dell native dp monitor with a mini dp to dp cable.

Have not had a dropout in 6 months. :rockout

I'm using a native Display Port monitor, no adapters.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 09:07
by johnnyvd
After months of not being able to use Cat 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 and 10.7 due to flickering DP issues, I have found a solution.

1. I believe it's the DP adapter. I just ordered an Accell B087B-003J Mini DP adapter with firmware 2.0. I previously used an Accell B087B-002B with old firmware.

2. The DP adapter should be plugged in a wall mounted USB adapter.

No more flickering or shutting off issues.

Will monitor and post if problems.

I am using Cat 10.7 Hotfix.


But magnet699 still has problems with the 2.0 firmware!

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 10:50
by hunuok
From experience, I found that Cat drivers are unique to each rig. ie, the variables are great. It sucks that a set of drivers (which are universal) are so SENSITIVE to hardware/software combinations.

I would suggest to magnet :

1. Plug the adapter into a wall mounted USB unit. After testing, I found this to be stable. ie, far less dropouts.
2. As he is not using crossfire, I would imagine any Cat driver to be stable. However, from experience, I found Cat 10.3 or 10.4 to be most stable.

I have at least solved one of my issues.

Now to concentrate on quadfinity performance issues.

The adventure continues.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 13:11
by johnnyvd
From experience, I found that Cat drivers are unique to each rig. ie, the variables are great. It sucks that a set of drivers (which are universal) are so SENSITIVE to hardware/software combinations.

I would suggest to magnet :

1. Plug the adapter into a wall mounted USB unit. After testing, I found this to be stable. ie, far less dropouts.
2. As he is not using crossfire, I would imagine any Cat driver to be stable. However, from experience, I found Cat 10.3 or 10.4 to be most stable.

I have at least solved one of my issues.

Now to concentrate on quadfinity performance issues.

The adventure continues.

What is your experience with the 10.7a hotfix drivers? It gave my setup quite a boost. Must say this goes primarely for Win7 64 bit.. 32 bit gets some system memory starvation..

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 13:48
by hunuok
Cat 10.7 Hotfix gave a performance boost.

However, Dirt 2 crashes during level loading/benchmark.

BC2 crashed. Hard reset.

Tried reinstalling both games. Still the same.

HAWX was the only game to run using quadfinity. 106 FPS ave.

Crysis (2560x1600 Very High 0AA DX10) gave 55FPS ave.

If it wasn't for the crashing, I would use these drivers at the drop of a hat.

I believe others are having crashes in other apps.

Buggy drivers?

The one positive is that the DP adapter issue is now resolved.

I feel like I've been on a treadmill for a year, sorting out issues.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 18:41
by magnet699
Hi,
I did connect the usb of the accell adapter to a wall power adapter, but still the same blacking out issue. This week-end I also found out that the monitor connected to the DP does not even wake up from sleep. It definitely seems like a driver issue. Maybe the bios update on the card and the new 2.0 firmware on the accell alleviated things, but I can confirm that the issue is still present.

You are right, it could be that the CAT drivers perform differently from one hardware to another.
That's why I am contemplating returning my sapphire card and getting a different brand.
Does anyone know if this issue happens less, or more on certain brands of cards?

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 19:44
by hunuok
Does anyone know if this issue happens less, or more on certain brands of cards?


TBH, I don't think it's "brand" related.

The only thing I haven't tried is the BIOS flash. This is the LAST resort.

I can suggest three options:

1. Wait for better drivers. I know what you're thinking..........
2. Go Green.
3. Have you tried lowering your res?

Not the "best" options I admit, but options none the less.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 20:16
by magnet699
I just contacted Accell and this is their reply:
"
Thanks for providing your system set-up information.

You provided that you are using AMD graphic card and HannsĀ·G HH-241HPB Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor. Please note that AMD driver does not support HDMI monitor that is attached to DVI port on the dongle. So this is compatibility issue. "
Best regards,


Is this true? I am using an HDMI to DVI cable which then connects to the Dongle. Anyone using HDMI monitor having the same problem?

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 22:09
by Delphium
So here just to throw my experience into the mix...

Card: 5870E6
Driver: 10.6
Adaptor: Bizlink Active DP to Dual-link DVI (dell resell them).
Adaptor Firmware: 034
Adaptor Model: BZL-KS10008(B)

For ages I tried to get this to work, without even any detection on my PC.
I have tried many combinations and port configurations, none of them worked.

I have however found a way to get it to work!!

Powering the device with a HTC phone charger that is a 240V Mains plug to USB 5V @ 1A, it works perfectly - not a single flicker!!!
I had previously tried USB1.0/2.0 @ 500mA even USB3.0 which provides 900mA to no avail.

Other USB chargers may also prove to help, such as those of the iPad which provides up to 1.2A.

EDIT:- I beleive that a custom built USB power cable would also work.
Method 1: Using 2 usb cables, split them both in half and solder the 2 male ends together linked to the female connector like in a Y cable splitter, this way you can use 2 USB ports to give a total of up to 5V @ 1Amp or 1.8Amp if using 2x USB3.0 sockets.
EDIT again or use this cable.

Method 2: Use a single USB cable, and attach the power cables to the 5V pins of a molex connector (+5v is RED with Ground as Black) that would normally be used to drive say hard drives/dvd drives, fans etc.
/EDIT


The cable connections are thus...


|DP>DVI(passive)| |DP>DVI(passive)| |DP>DVI(active)| |DP>VGA| |none| |none|
Each monitor running at 1920x1080.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 22:48
by suiken_2mieu
I found the apple adapters pretty cheap, what are people's consensus on them?

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 10 Aug 2010, 02:10
by xetura
Also make sure and check your cables, that solved the issue for me.

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 10 Aug 2010, 02:55
by xetura
Also, I recommend this cable to anyone running an Eyefinity6 + native Display Port monitor:http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&cs_id=1024606&p_id=6007&seq=1&format=2

Re: ATI Needs to fix the flickering on DP!

Posted: 10 Aug 2010, 05:44
by suiken_2mieu
And so, another enters the ring: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10428&cs_id=1042802&p_id=6904&seq=1&format=4#feedback

I'd pick one (or 3) up, but I don't have the money. There are limited quantities. The email said only 100. snag 'em up boys.