Mass Effect 3 - Final - no multi(like demo)

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Skripka
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helifax wrote:Loganbacca

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[quote]Hi Helifax, first of all a big thanks for all the work your doing on this.

I'm running Eyefinity and having a few issues.

v2.1 r398

  • HUD centring is not working in combat. Menu's (Squad skills, weapons, mod bench, etc.) are all correctly centred on the middle monitor, including the character models.

  • Transitioning from a non-combat to a combat area (e.g. Shooting range on the Citadel) resets the FOV to the games default. Note: loading a combat area (e.g. landing on a planet) loads the FOV fix correctly.




The old version (v2.1 r396) worked correctly, although I had to enable it after the main menu had loaded, otherwise it would break the main menu.

v2.1 r2 (from page 9 of this thread) did not work at all, and enabling it during the EA/Bioware intro video broke the main menu so loading a save was not possible.

I'm running the 1.01 standard game version from Origin (although it was installed from the physical disc, not downloaded). I'm also running Windows 7 x64. I'm using 5760x1080 res over 3 screens, so no bezel compensation.

Let me know if any more info would help.


Hi,
I cannot test it on Eyefinity as I have Surround :( The engine works differently on Eyefinity than Surround, so all the things the engine does are completely different. That is why you see this behavior. I know the game support Eyefinity if no bezels are being used.
To make the fix compatible with eyefinity I would need an Eyefinity setup to do my stuff there:(

I am sorry that I cannot help more:(

Best Regards,
Helifax

Sucky. :( Oh well, you just saved me $60 from being wasted on a broken game.
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Okay so a little update to

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Okay so a little update to what I was saying above... when I was experiencing that it was during an "in-combat" phase (with my weapon drawn.) For the whole duration, the fix wasn't working... however, once I finished the area and loaded back into my ship the fix started to work again. Interesting...
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helifax wrote:Hi,I cannot

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Hi,
I cannot test it on Eyefinity as I have Surround :( The engine works differently on Eyefinity than Surround, so all the things the engine does are completely different. That is why you see this behavior. I know the game support Eyefinity if no bezels are being used.
To make the fix compatible with eyefinity I would need an Eyefinity setup to do my stuff there:(

I am sorry that I cannot help more:(

Best Regards,
Helifax

Not a problem man and for now the r396 version is working correctly for me by centring the HUD.

Is it possible for you to compare how you were implementing it in the old version of the plugin to the new version? That might give you an idea of what may need to be changed to get it working on Eyefinity again?
Otherwise is there anything we can supply you with (aside from another graphics card), memory dumps or something, that would help you to work out how to get it going?
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Loganbacca wrote:helifax

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[quote]Hi,
I cannot test it on Eyefinity as I have Surround :( The engine works differently on Eyefinity than Surround, so all the things the engine does are completely different. That is why you see this behavior. I know the game support Eyefinity if no bezels are being used.
To make the fix compatible with eyefinity I would need an Eyefinity setup to do my stuff there:(

I am sorry that I cannot help more:(

Best Regards,
Helifax

Not a problem man and for now the r396 version is working correctly for me by centring the HUD.

Is it possible for you to compare how you were implementing it in the old version of the plugin to the new version? That might give you an idea of what may need to be changed to get it working on Eyefinity again?
Otherwise is there anything we can supply you with (aside from another graphics card), memory dumps or something, that would help you to work out how to get it going?


HI,
I know what the differences are between the two releases:) But, are you saying that in the Demo with the FIX it worked properly for Eyefinity users?
I can add the FOV to that version , but you will still need to enable/disable the fix like in the demo. I cannot solve the menu issue with that approach.


FOR THE FOV:
I also noticed that during some missions, the FOV address changes. I will look in the future for a better pointer and how that I can pinpoint a better one.

Best Regards,
Helifax
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I'm not sure about the demo

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I'm not sure about the demo as I never played it, but the 2.1 r396 version of the plugin works fine with the full game v1.01 with Eyefinity.

The only problems with it (which I know affect Surround users as well) is you need to disable it before going into the weapons menu if you want to use the mod bench, and of course no FOV fix (which I've been doing with Coalesced.bin mods). I also have to disable the plugin before getting to the main menu and multiplayer menu, otherwise they show up blank like the mod bench.

No fix is needed for all the other menus as they are all centred correctly and displayed in the middle screen, including the character models.
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I had the opposite issues

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I had the opposite issues when playing ME3 on my Eyefinity setup. For me, bezel-corrected resolutions would center the interface and look perfect. When using non-bezel-corrected resolutions then it would leave the HUD at the edges.
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dopefish wrote:I had the

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I had the opposite issues when playing ME3 on my Eyefinity setup. For me, bezel-corrected resolutions would center the interface and look perfect. When using non-bezel-corrected resolutions then it would leave the HUD at the edges.


I'm testing the Reloaded version...seems to work bezel corrected fine graphically, without Widescreenfixer. FOV is a bit goofy at default tho.
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So if you use Eyefinity is

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So if you use Eyefinity is the fix needed at all? I know for the FOV one can use the Coeds file.
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Interesting. So running a

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Interesting. So running a bezel-corrected res with Eyefinity centres the HUD?
I'll have to give it a go when I get home from work, that will be fantastic if it does, then I can just use widescreen fixer to correct the FOV. So far I don't actually think I've tried a bezel-corrected res, only 5760x1080.
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No it doesnt, i just tried,

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No it doesnt, i just tried, once you enter the war room menu, you cant click on anything, only option is to ALT-F4 and kill the game as the SCAPE key does nothing, tried both normal res and bezel corrected with Eyefinity in a 7970 :(, The widescreen fixer doesnt work for me so I cant play this game in triple screens :(
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CY:G wrote:No it doesnt, i

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No it doesnt, i just tried, once you enter the war room menu, you cant click on anything, only option is to ALT-F4 and kill the game as the SCAPE key does nothing, tried both normal res and bezel corrected with Eyefinity in a 7970 :(, The widescreen fixer doesnt work for me so I cant play this game in triple screens :(

Grab the older version of widescreen fixer (r397) from here for now: https://www.widescreenfixer.org/old.php
Just remember to activate it after you get to the main menu, and deactivate it before going into the mod bench. You may also have to leave it disabled when going into the multiplayer main menu.

Are you sure you can't play it without widescreen fixer? The only problem I've experienced so far with native eyefinity support is the HUD not centred, which I'll test later with bezel compensation. Everything else works fine, apart from the occasional failed menu load, which usually fixes itself after restarting the game.
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CY:G wrote:So if you use

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So if you use Eyefinity is the fix needed at all? I know for the FOV one can use the Coeds file.


Dunno. I can only report that apart from a few audio issues the Reoloaded exe that unlocks DLCs and Reloaded game files do Eyefinity fine here...no problemt with any menu or dialog/movie clip in game.

I was astounded. Figured I try before I buy to make sure something doesn't work.
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helifax wrote:Loganbacca

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[quote][quote]Hi,
I cannot test it on Eyefinity as I have Surround :( The engine works differently on Eyefinity than Surround, so all the things the engine does are completely different. That is why you see this behavior. I know the game support Eyefinity if no bezels are being used.
To make the fix compatible with eyefinity I would need an Eyefinity setup to do my stuff there:(

I am sorry that I cannot help more:(

Best Regards,
Helifax

Not a problem man and for now the r396 version is working correctly for me by centring the HUD.

Is it possible for you to compare how you were implementing it in the old version of the plugin to the new version? That might give you an idea of what may need to be changed to get it working on Eyefinity again?
Otherwise is there anything we can supply you with (aside from another graphics card), memory dumps or something, that would help you to work out how to get it going?


HI,
I know what the differences are between the two releases:) But, are you saying that in the Demo with the FIX it worked properly for Eyefinity users?
I can add the FOV to that version , but you will still need to enable/disable the fix like in the demo. I cannot solve the menu issue with that approach.


FOR THE FOV:
I also noticed that during some missions, the FOV address changes. I will look in the future for a better pointer and how that I can pinpoint a better one.

Best Regards,
Helifax

Phew...I thought I was going crazy when my FOV looked different :P Also, I know you said something about MP FOV, but is it something that you might look at? I haven't played MP yet, but I remember from the demo it was obviously crap like SP, so it would be good to have an option despite possible banning. If not, all good...don't want to distract you too much from this awesome game! :)
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Skripka wrote:CY:G wrote:So

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[quote]So if you use Eyefinity is the fix needed at all? I know for the FOV one can use the Coeds file.


Dunno. I can only report that apart from a few audio issues the Reoloaded exe that unlocks DLCs and Reloaded game files do Eyefinity fine here...no problemt with any menu or dialog/movie clip in game.

I was astounded. Figured I try before I buy to make sure something doesn't work.
Hmm... well I just tried bezel comp, non-bezel comp, and the reloaded version (just the exe, I used the retail content files) and it didn't work, always stretched the in-game HUD over all 3 monitors. I'd say for the retail version at least we do need a HUD fix. All the other menu's are fine on Eyefinity though.
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Yeah I'm also not getting a

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Yeah I'm also not getting a centred HUD with or without bezel-compensation, with Eyefinity. dopefish, is there anything in the config files on your setup that might be controlling the centering? Under DocumentsBiowareMass Effect 3BioGameConfig iirc. I've only got the settings from the game's Configurator app in mine, but I know there are more settings you can add to it eg. DepthOfField=False.
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evilmatt wrote:Yeah I'm also

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Yeah I'm also not getting a centred HUD with or without bezel-compensation, with Eyefinity. dopefish, is there anything in the config files on your setup that might be controlling the centering? Under DocumentsBiowareMass Effect 3BioGameConfig iirc. I've only got the settings from the game's Configurator app in mine, but I know there are more settings you can add to it eg. DepthOfField=False.


Ah, you guys are worrying about a centered HUD. So long as HUD elements don't hide under bezels and are out of the way I don't care in the least. Game is perfectly playable otherwise at least under Eyefinity bezel corrected resolutions, and HUD centering is the only issue that I am seeing that is listed fixed under the patch/fix by Helifax.

Considering that is the only real issue, as all the other menus/screens/movies work fine...I really don't get what the "C" grade is about on the detailed report. If the game is that close to working perfectly for Eyefinity and that broken on Nvidia Surround, perhaps there should be two grades. I mean hell, Fallout 3 at default had the same HUD issues as well as some menu issues to boot and it got a silver medal.
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Skripka wrote:evilmatt

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[quote]Yeah I'm also not getting a centred HUD with or without bezel-compensation, with Eyefinity. dopefish, is there anything in the config files on your setup that might be controlling the centering? Under DocumentsBiowareMass Effect 3BioGameConfig iirc. I've only got the settings from the game's Configurator app in mine, but I know there are more settings you can add to it eg. DepthOfField=False.


Ah, you guys are worrying about a centered HUD. So long as HUD elements don't hide under bezels and are out of the way I don't care in the least. Game is perfectly playable otherwise at least under Eyefinity bezel corrected resolutions, and HUD centering is the only issue that I am seeing that is listed fixed under the patch/fix by Helifax.

Considering that is the only real issue, as all the other menus/screens/movies work fine...I really don't get what the "C" grade is about on the detailed report. If the game is that close to working perfectly for Eyefinity and that broken on Nvidia Surround, perhaps there should be two grades. I mean hell, Fallout 3 at default had the same HUD issues as well as some menu issues to boot and it got a silver medal.

So when you press SCAPE And then go to menus like the graphics menu, the menus are properly scaled? when i press ESCAPE, the menu is scaled but as soon as i enter any other menu, Graphics for example, the menu is huge and most elements are out-of-screen and non clickable. For example, I cant even use the space travel menu as the LAND button is outside of my screens.

Internet at home is spotty and I cant use DRM like Origin's, I own the game but when my connection is down, the game wont even load my save files because as soon as you use their DLC, it locks the save game to first check for DLC therefore Im also using the RELOADED exe with bezel correction, I wonder why it doesnt work on my computer. :( Game looks awesome in triple screen, but its unplayable without being able to click menus :(
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CY:G wrote:So when you

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So when you press SCAPE And then go to menus like the graphics menu, the menus are properly scaled? when i press ESCAPE, the menu is scaled but as soon as i enter any other menu, Graphics for example, the menu is huge and most elements are out-of-screen and non clickable. For example, I cant even use the space travel menu as the LAND button is outside of my screens.

Internet at home is spotty and I cant use DRM like Origin's, I own the game but when my connection is down, the game wont even load my save files because as soon as you use their DLC, it locks the save game to first check for DLC therefore Im also using the RELOADED exe with bezel correction, I wonder why it doesnt work on my computer. :( Game looks awesome in triple screen, but its unplayable without being able to click menus :(


Goofy. All my menus are scaled properly incl. system menus in&out-of-game/game menu/character powers menu/galaxy map/workbench/storefronts...I haven't found anything not scaling properly yet heck even my characters head is scaled right in the character menu, and I got about 1/3-1/2 through the single-player main quest-line so far...only thing wonked is sound after the EA logo video sometimes, and I have to restart the game. I'll see about posting some screencaps later tonight.

I don't get how it happens that Origin/retail is broken in Eyefinity/Surround but a full "Reloaded" version with unlocked DLC works in Eyefinity fine. It makes no sense to me.

<----------------For reference, my system specs
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Skripka wrote:CY:G wrote:So

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[quote]

So when you press SCAPE And then go to menus like the graphics menu, the menus are properly scaled? when i press ESCAPE, the menu is scaled but as soon as i enter any other menu, Graphics for example, the menu is huge and most elements are out-of-screen and non clickable. For example, I cant even use the space travel menu as the LAND button is outside of my screens.

Internet at home is spotty and I cant use DRM like Origin's, I own the game but when my connection is down, the game wont even load my save files because as soon as you use their DLC, it locks the save game to first check for DLC therefore Im also using the RELOADED exe with bezel correction, I wonder why it doesnt work on my computer. :( Game looks awesome in triple screen, but its unplayable without being able to click menus :(


Goofy. All my menus are scaled properly incl. system menus in&out-of-game/game menu/character powers menu/galaxy map/workbench/storefronts...I haven't found anything not scaling properly yet heck even my characters head is scaled right in the character menu, and I got about 1/3-1/2 through the single-player main quest-line so far...only thing wonked is sound after the EA logo video sometimes, and I have to restart the game. I'll see about posting some screencaps later tonight.

I don't get how it happens that Origin/retail is broken in Eyefinity/Surround but a full "Reloaded" version with unlocked DLC works in Eyefinity fine. It makes no sense to me.

<----------------For reference, my system specs

hmm im also using the Reloaded exe with unlocked DLC, im starting to think by looking at your specs that its an issue with 5760 * 1200 with bezel correction, you seem to be using 5040 * 1050 with bezel correction, i will give that a try later tonight. Maybe @ 5760 the engine goes crazy or something. Thanks.
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Thank so much for this. I

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Thank so much for this. I just noticed two things :

- The FOV fix works well in MP
- The sniper rifle (m-92, the one i have tested) reset the fov to default

Is it intended?
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