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What could be better than the Ping Bars that traditional console ports give us? OH YEAH! NO PING INFO AT ALL IN GAME.

Ugh, I can't stop playing it, like its a good game... just the execution is terrible.

I'm having trouble getting into a game now too because the Server Browser is causing crashes and they recommend using the Play Now button (yay for consolization!)... So I did and it made the game feel even worse than the first time that I played. (probably a lack of clientside prediction, I'm assuming that I had quite a high ping considering the servers name was something like Swiss Gamers.. And I live in Canada)

I can't wrap my brain around why the mouse support is so bad though, its always been bad in BF games as you said. Everyone complains about it... That's my biggest pet peeve at the moment.

Edit: Is there no command console either? :/
No modding either which was a huge part of the first two games (Desert Combat, Project Reality anyone?)

The FOV is actually fine IMO. It's not as extreme as BC1, and it's acceptable.

I think it's dumb that you have to hold down crouch, but then zoom is a toggle. I would prefer if you had to hold the button to zoom and it unzoomed when you let go. You can do much more rapid aiming like that. I prefer having to hold down keys versus a toggle because then it's only a matter of letting the key go to return to your natural state instead having to press the key again.

I think FOVs are correct. Take a look this screnshoot at diferent aspects ratios:

4:3



16:9



48:9 HUD in main screen

[quote]The FOV is actually fine IMO. It's not as extreme as BC1, and it's acceptable.

I think it's dumb that you have to hold down crouch, but then zoom is a toggle. I would prefer if you had to hold the button to zoom and it unzoomed when you let go. You can do much more rapid aiming like that. I prefer having to hold down keys versus a toggle because then it's only a matter of letting the key go to return to your natural state instead having to press the key again.

I think FOVs are correct. Take a look this screnshoot at diferent aspects ratios:


Yea I think the FOV is ok.

My responses in bold:

The actual game is good. Though i get some weird close quarters accuracy when medic.... standing on top of someone and spraying my entire clip = 4 hits...

Going assault and sitting 100m away = 2-3 hits to kill someone. tap tap tap.
It's funny, I think I had better hits with the medic gun than with assault. I really had to crouch, aim and place those shots in their chest. Hard to do sometimes when 3 or 4 guys are bearing down on you guns blazing though. :P

Sniper zoom looks ugly as hell.
AGREED! I played it for a bit and I really hope they change this. I've never looked through a rifle scope and seen anything like what they displayed

Menus + server browser suck. I hope they fix this. (#1 pet peeve at the moment)
Yea, I know they said they are working on this.

Can't get my microphone to work. (#2 pet peeve)
This I believe is a known issue. Not sure if I plan on using the ingame voice stuff. Generally play with people I know and use a separate voice program.

Can't seem to rebind melee to something other that middle mouse button so that i don't knife half way through firing an entire clip.
I rebound mine to MOUSE4 (Thumb button). I haven't tried to bind it to a keyboard key. Is that what you are trying to do?

They say it's beta and all so I have faith that things will get tweaked and fixed prior to the release, but we'll see!

What could be better than the Ping Bars that traditional console ports give us? OH YEAH! NO PING INFO AT ALL IN GAME.

Ugh, I can't stop playing it, like its a good game... just the execution is terrible.

I'm having trouble getting into a game now too because the Server Browser is causing crashes and they recommend using the Play Now button (yay for consolization!)... So I did and it made the game feel even worse than the first time that I played. (probably a lack of clientside prediction, I'm assuming that I had quite a high ping considering the servers name was something like Swiss Gamers.. And I live in Canada)

I can't wrap my brain around why the mouse support is so bad though, its always been bad in BF games as you said. Everyone complains about it... That's my biggest pet peeve at the moment.

Edit: Is there no command console either? :/
No modding either which was a huge part of the first two games (Desert Combat, Project Reality anyone?)

1) it's a beta, not even a demo... there is no proper way to have execution for a beta

2) the server browser will be fixed soon (it's a beta, quit whining)... you can get ping info if you refresh it a couple times

3) BF has never had the greatest mouse support... the problem comes from DPI scaling... if you use a high DPI, the sensitivity is too high... try lowering your DPI on the mouse without touching the in-game sensitivity (also, many, many FPS games have problems with the mouse... including quake and other big FPS games)

4) they stated there would be no console..... the reason is this is that they never actually designed or developed a command console for the game..... BC1 was a console game only, and there is no need for a command console on a console, they never made one... BC2 is built on the same engine as BC1, so there is still no command console.... if they had developed a command console in the first place, you can be sure you'd see it in the PC version



People really seem to expect a perfect game for a beta. If this were a final, released product, then I could understand some frustration, but this is a BETA. :)

People really seem to expect a perfect game for a beta. If this were a final, released product, then I could understand some frustration, but this is a BETA. :)

Oh lol. If my post sounds like one big whinge, it was more pointing out things that I'm picking up on that I'm wondering if other people think need to be fixed in the end game. i.e. just checking if my opinion sits with other ppl and isn't just me being lame/stubborn/used to some other MP game etc. etc. I'd prefer to get some perspective before writing a nice email with all my comments to DICE.

:D

Loving the gameplay. Hopefully they fix some of this stuff before release... though a month isn't that long...

Funny thing, Combat Testing issued me a beta key for BC2, but they banned me years ago so I can't actually access the key they issued to my account.

Oh well.

Funny thing, Combat Testing issued me a beta key for BC2, but they banned me years ago so I can't actually access the key they issued to my account.

Oh well.

Banned eh? You sound like a troublemaker. :cheers

[quote]Funny thing, Combat Testing issued me a beta key for BC2, but they banned me years ago so I can't actually access the key they issued to my account.

Oh well.

Banned eh? You sound like a troublemaker. :cheers

I didn't do much of anything. I once joked that I was 11 years old and two days later I log on to find they banned me for being underage.

Dicks couldn't see the sarcasm in the situation and that was that.

[quote][quote]Funny thing, Combat Testing issued me a beta key for BC2, but they banned me years ago so I can't actually access the key they issued to my account.

Oh well.

Banned eh? You sound like a troublemaker. :cheers

I didn't do much of anything. I once joked that I was 11 years old and two days later I log on to find they banned me for being underage.

Dicks couldn't see the sarcasm in the situation and that was that.

LOL that sucks!

I heard they released a patch to fix the server browser issues. I'm at work at the moment so I guess I'll check it out tonight. Any of you guys test the new patch?

No changelog anywhere? :(


So how is everyone's performance? Mine is absolutely horrible :(
On the BC2 forums some people with overall worse computers than me have better performance, on the flip side many people with better computers than me seem to have worse performance.


Edit: Turning on HSAO helped me FPS quite abit its still rather horrible though :/

I'm having an issue getting the menu/hud to display properly when using eyefinity. I have 3 dell 1908fp 19" standard monitors running at 3840x1024. However, the menu/hud is pushed almost completly to the outer screens. This is obvious when first starting the game as the main screen is spread about 1/4 onto the outer two screens. It's as if they don't have it quite right for the standard monitors. Any ideas?

I'm having an issue getting the menu/hud to display properly when using eyefinity. I have 3 dell 1908fp 19" standard monitors running at 3840x1024. However, the menu/hud is pushed almost completly to the outer screens. This is obvious when first starting the game as the main screen is spread about 1/4 onto the outer two screens. It's as if they don't have it quite right for the standard monitors. Any ideas?

It's probably due to the game catering to 16:9. it's not noticeable on 3x16:9 or 3x16:10 systems because the middle monitor is wide enough. But on you setup it's gonna bleed into your other monitors. This happens on other games as well.

So I'll probably have to wait for a solution from the community rather than the game devs.

*Update*

When the game detected my monitors, it also gave me the option of selecting 3072x768. I wasn't too thrilled with selecting that as I was hoping to go with 3840x1024, but I gave it a shot today. For some reason the menu and hud seem to work just fine at this resolution. Sure it's not the greatest, but the fov and gameplay experience are well worth it.

So I'll probably have to wait for a solution from the community rather than the game devs.

*Update*

When the game detected my monitors, it also gave me the option of selecting 3072x768. I wasn't too thrilled with selecting that as I was hoping to go with 3840x1024, but I gave it a shot today. For some reason the menu and hud seem to work just fine at this resolution. Sure it's not the greatest, but the fov and gameplay experience are well worth it.

Glad you got your HUD stuff sort of worked out.

I've really been enjoying the game so far with the little amount of time I've had to play. Especially with eyefinity! I think that it's saved my butt on a number of occasions. I've been playing the medic role about 90% of the time and actually have a blast running around healing and reviving my team. Then trying to stay alive so my squad can spawn on me in key areas.

It's sad, but my K/D ratio is at a pathetic at 2 deaths to 1 kill and best weapon is my knife? I have 60+ kills with it. :P

People are complaining about the weapons being weak, but I don't think they realize how much recoil there is and that they are actually missing. I got into an awesome position on a group of 5 enemies and was crouched/aimed and single tapping them and killed them all with less than one mag of ammo as a medic. If you just hold the button down I don't think you will hit much even in close quarters.

My killing sucks overall, but my supporting has been effective and it's been a lot of fun for me. I like that this game seems to be rewarding you for being a team player.

My screen name is Vaitek on steam and on EA. I can't get the friends stuff to work properly and it may be a bug. Add me if you can, be cool to play with other people.

No changelog anywhere? :(

Dood, it's a forced update anyway - doesn't matter what changes there are... talk about Hobson's Choice - "you need to update before you can play!"

"...Do you want to update?"

FFS...

The question exists in case you don't want to update at that moment.

If you're downloading something else, or you're watching a stream, or whatever other reason, you just might not want to update at that particular moment. In that case you just click "No" and update later. :)

Dood, it's a forced update anyway - doesn't matter what changes there are...

I Found the changelog
I think it matters very much what the changes are, whether I should keep complaining about problems that I have or not etc. Its nice to know about the changes in any software that you use IMO.

The RC2 contains the following fixes:

Front End:

# Fixes server browser crashes. Server browser more resilient against corrupt online service data, and better support for large number of servers.
# Several server browser ping issues resolved.

Windows XP Stability:

# Fixed crash on windows XP at end of round, exit game and display mode changes and.
# Proper window style / mouse confinement when starting game maximized on XP .

Options Dialog:

# Mouse sensitivity setting gives more effect.
# Mouse sensitivity loaded on game startup.

The update to RC2 is 8.4Mb

I Found the changelog
I think it matters very much what the changes are, whether I should keep complaining about problems that I have or not etc. Its nice to know about the changes in any software that you use IMO.

The RC2 contains the following fixes:

Front End:

# Fixes server browser crashes. Server browser more resilient against corrupt online service data, and better support for large number of servers.
# Several server browser ping issues resolved.

Windows XP Stability:

# Fixed crash on windows XP at end of round, exit game and display mode changes and.
# Proper window style / mouse confinement when starting game maximized on XP .

Options Dialog:

# Mouse sensitivity setting gives more effect.
# Mouse sensitivity loaded on game startup.

The update to RC2 is 8.4Mb

Yea, I like to know what's been changed so I know if the changes affect me and I can test them.

On forced updates you don't have a choice; it's nice to know what the changes are - but ultimately with a forced update it doesn't matter one way or t'other.

On forced updates you don't have a choice; it's nice to know what the changes are - but ultimately with a forced update it doesn't matter one way or t'other.

I don't think ive ever looked at a changelog for an optional update and gone wait a minute I don't want this! Hell, I usually look at the changelog AFTER I update. (If this is what you are getting at of course.)