Monitors that will and won't run at 5040x1050 @ 57hz

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 05 Jan 2009, 13:53

Forget about that max pixel count... It's confusing at best. Even a single 8800 GT can display 5040x1050, period. All you need to achieve that res using TH2G is a DX10-compliant nvidia card. (Yeah, that DX10 part is confusing, too) :lol:

So it seems your panels can't do 1680x1050@57Hz, plain and simple. :( I'd love to see how it looks though. 26 "missing" pixels in height can't really ruin graphics I suppose. Could you post a couple game screenshots in the surround section ?

List corrected, thanks for your input !

Grek1956 · Post by **Grek1956** » 05 Jan 2009, 15:04

Good news :D :D

I used the data for the user specific resolution in this thread:
[url]http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/9732]

and now 5040 * 1050 works on Samsung 2443BW :!:

ricknau · Post by **ricknau** » 06 Jan 2009, 05:49

So it seems your panels can't do 1680x1050@57Hz, plain and simple. :( I'd love to see how it looks though. 26 "missing" pixels in height can't really ruin graphics I suppose. Could you post a couple game screenshots in the surround section ?

Not sure what you mean by "in the surround section". But here are a couple of "Portal" screen shots at 5040x1024 using my Acer V223W monitors. It's puzzling to me is that these monitors will do 1680x1050 at 60hz (if, for example, I run Windows on only 2 screens) and 1680x1024 at 57hz but not 1680x1050 at 57hz. Bummer.

The image still looks pretty good though at 1680x1024 per monitor. If not for the monitor's self reporting "info" button on the front panel I would never have know it wasn't displaying 1050. I tried to find a similar info button on a high-end Dell 24" monitor at work and I couldn't find any way to get it to tell me what res it was running at. That makes me wonder if anybody is being fooled by what they are seeing?

If these should be posted in some other forum let me know and I will move them.

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 06 Jan 2009, 15:04

Well, your screenies are 1050 pixel high. So maybe that's just what is displayed and your monitors' OSD simply can't detect the actual res properly, since 1680x1050@57Hz is not a stock setting. I'll put your monitor model in a "special" sublist. :?

Grek1956, good news indeed. List updated again ;)

Post by **g00seberry** » 06 Jan 2009, 15:11

If only I knew what the indigenous code is for those clean little black dots the original list has and I can't even put an english name on !! :x

Code: Select all

<ul>

   <li>Monitor 1</li>

   <li>Monitor 2</li>

   <li>Monitor 3</li>

   </ul>

[list]
[*]Monitor 1[/*:m]
[*]Monitor 2[/*:m]
[*]Monitor 3[/*:m][/list:u]

And they're called Bullet Points ;)

Post by **scavvenjahh** » 06 Jan 2009, 15:24

Double thanks sir ! In french we call'em "puces" i.e "fleas". (All in all, squashing insects and wasting ammo both seem pretty moronic ways to write down lists. Ah, vocabulary and ways of life.)

ricknau · Post by **ricknau** » 07 Jan 2009, 05:13

Well, your screenies are 1050 pixel high. So maybe that's just what is displayed and your monitors' OSD simply can't detect the actual res properly, since 1680x1050@57Hz is not a stock setting. I'll put your monitor model in a "special" sublist. :?

Sheesh! What a dummy. With all the screen capture, save, upload etc. I never noticed that the screenshot was 5040x1050.

Post by **skipclarke** » 07 Jan 2009, 07:05

As a note, on my Dell 2208WFPs, I have to run the scaling at 1:1 for 5040x1050 to work properly. Otherwise it cuts off the bottom of the screen. 4320x900 (and everything else) is fine with "fill" scaling. The OSD shows 5040x1050 at 57Hz.

thorvald · Post by **thorvald** » 07 Jan 2009, 18:58

I can confirm the new Samsung 2253BW has the issue with the OSD Not Optimal Range and then going black.

If you hit the source button it will bring it back but again the message stays on screen and eventually turns back off again.

I have 2 x 2253BW's and a 1 x 226BW. The 226BW I have works perfectly.

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Did anyone find a solution/trick to making various models of the Samsung happy?

Someone said try Nvidia 175.19, did that solve the OSD message issue and allow you full 5040x1050?

Thanks
Tim

NZCoyote · Post by **NZCoyote** » 07 Jan 2009, 20:37

Did anyone find a solution/trick to making various models of the Samsung happy?

Someone said try Nvidia 175.19, did that solve the OSD message issue and allow you full 5040x1050?

Hi Tim

I'm currently running 3 Samsung 226BW's I was initially getting the OSD warning message on two out of the three panels. After I followed the instructions in this thread [url]http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/9799] the OSD warning hasn't reappeared.

The most important step in setting up the cutom display is when doing the Back-End Parameters select CVT Reduced Blank as the timing standard and then select manual before changing the values. This changes the pixel clock and Horizontal scan rate which you can't otherwise modify.

I've currently got values for Horizontal Scan Rate = 64.08 and Pixel Clock = 336.7500

I'm also using the new 180.48 Nvidia drivers and new 2.4.0.11 Matrox GXM (PowerDesk-SE).

See if doing this helps you out.

Regards,
Nigel

thorvald · Post by **thorvald** » 07 Jan 2009, 23:21

Hmm, tried that and it does indeed change the rates for the monitors.

However now even the 226BW complains about not optimum if I use those settings LOL.

I think that thread is for an older version of PowerDesk-SE, since I have no problem with the 5040x1050 modes showing up, I just have a problem with the sync range.

With those custom settings the monitor OSD menu shows the following on all three monitors:

Digital
59.4kHz 56Hz PN
1680x1050

So at least it's changing the rate. Now if I can find the magic settings to push that 59.4kHz to 60.0kHz, I may be ok.

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As per that thread however, I did not get the "warning about reverting or keeping current display setup, select keep. Reboot. It will come up again and may ask for another reboot, do it as required.".

GXM didn't report any problem at all however I am running the latest drivers etc from Matrox.

On to more hunting....

If anyone has had any luck with the 2253BW, please let me know.

Tim

NZCoyote · Post by **NZCoyote** » 07 Jan 2009, 23:31

Sorry Tim,

I forgot to mention that in the cutom resolution setup I've set the "GDI Refresh Rate" value to 60 but all the other settings are exactly the same as for the 5040x1050 @ 57Hz custom settings. After I made the change from 57Hz to 60Hz the error messages stopped appearing.

Not sure if this will help you or not. I can post some more screen shots of my settings once I get home from work.

thorvald · Post by **thorvald** » 07 Jan 2009, 23:52

Wait! Maybe I'm an idiot.... lol.

With those settings from the original post, all monitors get the OSD message but if I clear the message, all the monitors stay on!!!!!

Never thought to try waiting longer to see if they would still blank. So far it's working!

I can put up with the annoying message upon bootup if that is all I have to endure.

Time to leave it running for a bit and then test Team Fortress 2 etc.

Thanks, will keep you posted!

Tim

thorvald · Post by **thorvald** » 08 Jan 2009, 23:46

Just to follow up to my messages in this thread, OSD message is solved by using Nigels method of changing the 57Hz to 60Hz and then performing the CTV and Manual settings as per the original thread.

Samsung 2253BWs working perfectly now at 5040x1050!

fulcrum_64th · Post by **fulcrum_64th** » 11 Jan 2009, 10:56

I have installed all the new softwares (ie 180.48 and the new GMX)...I see the widescreen resolution but when i choose it I get "the cant display resolution, optimum resolution is 1680x1050 at 60 HZ" on my screens (E228WFP)...i am then forced to boot and restore the windows to an older point to see again something on my screen
my system
Vista Ultimate 32bit SP1
intel extrem Q6850
4 GB Ram
2 x Geforce 8800 Ultra
3 x Dell 22'' screens (E228WFP)

thx a lot for your help

Fulcrum

Typhoon2000 · Post by **Typhoon2000** » 11 Jan 2009, 15:43

I have installed all the new softwares (ie 180.48 and the new GMX)...I see the widescreen resolution but when i choose it I get "the cant display resolution, optimum resolution is 1680x1050 at 60 HZ" on my screens (E228WFP)...i am then forced to boot and restore the windows to an older point to see again something on my screen
my system
Vista Ultimate 32bit SP1
intel extrem Q6850
4 GB Ram
2 x Geforce 8800 Ultra
3 x Dell 22'' screens (E228WFP)

thx a lot for your help

Fulcrum

You may want to try out a custom resolution on the nvidea control panel. You have 15 seconds to confirm it works before it reverts to the original. If your stuck, instead of having to restore, just unplug yout TH2G box and plug in 1 monitor; Windows should recognise the new monitor and change down to a suitable resolution.

YouTube · Post by **ViciousXUSMC** » 15 Jan 2009, 10:36

As a note, on my Dell 2208WFPs, I have to run the scaling at 1:1 for 5040x1050 to work properly. Otherwise it cuts off the bottom of the screen. 4320x900 (and everything else) is fine with "fill" scaling. The OSD shows 5040x1050 at 57Hz.

Nice these are what i was looking for to see if they worked because the are $200 direct right now and seem like they would be good monitors.

Have some pics for me? :P

I think it may be a good idea to wikify this information if we have not already.

Jurgen · Post by **Jurgen** » 15 Jan 2009, 15:54

I have just finished reading this whole thing and was wondering if someone already tested the new Samsung T220

Jurgen · Post by **Jurgen** » 15 Jan 2009, 16:01

New year's resolutions time... I've challenged myself to update the list.
If only I knew what the indigenous code is for those clean little black dots the original list has and I can't even put an english name on !! :x (Edit : thanks, that was... eZ'.)

[EDIT]

[list]Known working:
[*]LG L227wtg[/*:m][/list:u]
[/EDIT]

Is this the same as:

LG TFT L227WT-PF

I like the design of the LG over the Samsung T220 (donÂ´t like the red)

Mickey_1 · Post by **Mickey_1** » 27 Jan 2009, 09:23

Hey

i cant get my system to run 5040 X 1050 the wizard show it avaliable but when i select it my screens come up with "OUT OF RANGE"

im am running

Geforce GTX 285
vista 32bit
driver 181.22
latest power desk
and 3 X CHIMEI 221D's

please Help, i want to throw my entire system out the window......... :x :x

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