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Seriously, I don't understand why people re-format there drive and do clean install from time to time. . Yes I know that Windows s**ks and all the crap it accumulate eventually will cause some lost of performance. But is it really that big a deal to start with? Even a 5% drop is hardly noticeable if you have a fast enough system.

I'll give you a piece of paper, a pencil and an eraser. You can draw as much as you want on the piece of paper and then erase it! Eventually you can come back to me to get a new piece of paper if you want or you could even pay me money to get a bigger piece of paper!

Eventually that piece of paper is just not the same piece of paper that you were first given. Even if there was nothing wrong with the old paper wouldn't you just rather get a new piece of paper? I know that I sure would.


And well that's basically how I feel about reformatting. Even if performance gains are minimal a fresh start always feels amazing, its like nice new freshly washed underware, or the fresh smell of spring cleaning.

I will say that I've been on this install of windows for over 2 years now, and I've been wanting to reformat for over half a year now. Reformatting is definitely work especially with drives as big as they are now, I haven't been able to format simply because I had no place to backup lots of this data too (its not vital data but I would prefer not to lose it..)

[quote] Seriously, I don't understand why people re-format there drive and do clean install from time to time. . Yes I know that Windows s**ks and all the crap it accumulate eventually will cause some lost of performance. But is it really that big a deal to start with? Even a 5% drop is hardly noticeable if you have a fast enough system.

I'll give you a piece of paper, a pencil and an eraser. You can draw as much as you want on the piece of paper and then erase it! Eventually you can come back to me to get a new piece of paper if you want or you could even pay me money to get a bigger piece of paper!

Eventually that piece of paper is just not the same piece of paper that you were first given. Even if there was nothing wrong with the old paper wouldn't you just rather get a new piece of paper? I know that I sure would.


And well that's basically how I feel about reformatting. Even if performance gains are minimal a fresh start always feels amazing, its like nice new freshly washed underware, or the fresh smell of spring cleaning.

I will say that I've been on this install of windows for over 2 years now, and I've been wanting to reformat for over half a year now. Reformatting is definitely work especially with drives as big as they are now, I haven't been able to format simply because I had no place to backup lots of this data too (its not vital data but I would prefer not to lose it..)

No thank you. I recently went from a E6750 to the Q9550 so I'm fine, next up if I feel my system being pushed is probably a new Vid card. After that, it's time to retire this system and go Win7/i7.

DRM is a necessary evil as unfortunately there are thousands of people who consider pirating not to be theft and the rest of us suffer.

However not all DRM is equal, disc-checks don't have time limits, as server checks do.

I'd suggest DRM makers take after that lose/lose artsy/indie game and make any game without running DRM delete random files whenever an enemy is killed.

Only bad part of such an idea is knowing starforce and cie, the drm would likely delete things even if it's running.

DRM is a necessary evil as unfortunately there are thousands of people who consider pirating not to be theft and the rest of us suffer.

However not all DRM is equal, disc-checks don't have time limits, as server checks do.

I'd suggest DRM makers take after that lose/lose artsy/indie game and make any game without running DRM delete random files whenever an enemy is killed.

Only bad part of such an idea is knowing starforce and cie, the drm would likely delete things even if it's running.

Everything will be online and account based at some point, with some files downloading on the fly. That will cut down on piracy on a massive scale and we might see more PC exclusives again. Of course it also means no ownership rights at all and the death of games forever when a company dies.

online accounts just get hacked Mesh.

people steal wow accounts, they use "addons" to spoof as keyloggers and take peoples accounts.

then they farm items, make gold, and fuel the gold sellers.

the account then gets banned, and then poor consumer is fucked trying to get his account back.

blizzard sell the authenticater, and the iphone app. but i dont understand why it cant be bundled with the game? even add £5 to the cost of the game. its a PITA to order from blizz shop.

postage costs more than the thing in the first place, morons.

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Because Blizzard make more money if they make you pay for everything separately. ;)

Online accounts are an advantage for the publishers only - as they give them total, ultimate control.

I'd love Sony DADC to go out of business; somehow I doubt that the huge numbers of devs/pubs who've used the latest SecuROM will release a de-DRM patch. If 50% of them did, I'd be impressed. Then I can point and laugh at all of the ragefits as people realise their games don't work any more. And due to modern EULA's, I doubt that a lawsuit would do much, either.

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Anyway, format and reinstall... hm... I guess I got so used to it with Windows 98 that it doesn't bother me. I used to find reinstalling XP a chore of the highest order (because I've never yet succeeded in making a heavily-slipstreamed disc that works 100%) and XP's default settings take me over an hour to tweak to how I like. Vista dropped the time needed for a reinstall to just over an hour, rather than the best part of a day... and Windows 7? Aside from the latest Catalyst or Forceware driver, I've not needed to install one driver in Windows 7. Not one. On any system I've tested it on. Bluetooth, WLAN... they're all ID'd correctly and work fine.

online accounts just get hacked Mesh.

people steal wow accounts, they use "addons" to spoof as keyloggers and take peoples accounts.

then they farm items, make gold, and fuel the gold sellers.

the account then gets banned, and then poor consumer is frak trying to get his account back.

blizzard sell the authenticater, and the iphone app. but i dont understand why it cant be bundled with the game? even add £5 to the cost of the game. its a PITA to order from blizz shop.

postage costs more than the thing in the first place, morons.

I said cut down, not eliminate. There will always be piracy, the key is to make it more complicated, more risky and have less features. Right now anyone can download a singleplayer PC game and play it with limited hassle... downloading a console game takes a modded console, tactics to get around console firmware updates and online accounts, etc.. That is why less people (percentage wise) pirate on consoles.

So, online accounts and hosted content that downloads or even streams will make it much much harder to pirate on PC, and thus less people will do it.

I said cut down, not eliminate. There will always be piracy, the key is to make it more complicated, more risky and have less features.

Encrypted USB key dongles. Plug in and game!

(Like some of the ultra-high-end CAD/image programs that need a hardware dongle...)

(Seriously, I'd favour a hardware dongle solution over almost any other method of DRM...)

[quote]I said cut down, not eliminate. There will always be piracy, the key is to make it more complicated, more risky and have less features.

Encrypted USB key dongles. Plug in and game!

(Like some of the ultra-high-end CAD/image programs that need a hardware dongle...)

(Seriously, I'd favour a hardware dongle solution over almost any other method of DRM...)
at the end of the day those get pirated too since the software will at some point "call for protection verification"
what's more, historically, dongle based software gets pirated

plus the dongle being hardware can fail ...

there's no ideal solution
myself I tend to wait and buy games that are DRM free (some after a year of exploitation, plus this often allows to get games cheaper)

Not sure if anybody has been to Brasil as of late. But when I was there for some time, almost nobody had games that were legit (Except the rich). Even Rental shops had games that were pirated (all of them), Xbox 360 had a ton, PS2 had 5 tons and so forth. It isn't just PC (maybe in the US it is).

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