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 Post subject: ATI Eyefinity in action
PostPosted: 12 Sep 2009, 10:57 
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So where is Nvidia in all this? They're probably seeing it as an even bigger waste of R&D than their acquiring and pushing PhysX was. Low and behold the much maligned MS will come along with DX11 and set things back on the path of practicality, because that and W7 are what is going to help consumer gaming most in the months to come. DX11 and W7 will do far more for multi threading than either camp's CPUs, but I think you seriously understated the i5, even though I am passing it over for a 920 (they can be had for $200 now).


DX11 and Opencl will do more for multithreaded gaming then CPU's. I believe this too. We'll have a pool of resources then that the games can benifit from.

This is a bit off topic though. You can run any processor you like with any GFX you like. Things are not limited there. Speaking of processors of AMD and Intel when this is about GFX and triplehead gaming is kinda derailing.

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Having the option to connect 3x 1920x1200 screens and run them in a game is something everyone can benifit from. Even if you can't afford 3 screens and neither of your friends can, you all might have one screen each and can combine them for a weekend of triplehead pleasure!

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx

ATI Eyefinity is TH2G going mainstream. Everyone with that tech is a potential tripleheader. If it be with their own screens or with borrowed screens from friends. People don't have to buy a $300 TH box to try it out and people can try it before they buy 3 screens this way.


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ATI Eyefinity is TH2G going mainstream. Everyone with that tech is a potential tripleheader. If it be with their own screens or with borrowed screens from friends. People don't have to buy a $300 TH box to try it out and people can try it before they buy 3 screens this way.


This is an amazing point. You really just blew my mind with that.

Something that Ive been wondering is if it will work with CRT's at all, and with that on monitors with VGA input only. I remember seeing something like "If your monitor has DVI it will work with Eyefinity", I dont really see why It would not work with a VGA > DVI converter.

And I just have to say, this is one of the best things to ever happen to WSGF. I mean, the recent changes to the certification to include triple head is really great.

Edit: Tamlin could you move this thread to the new Eyefinity forum?


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Looks like PS already moved it! :)

Yeah, for WSGF its huge IMHO. Everyone (who has friends with their own screens) can now try it without buying an expensive setup. Should give a huge boost to the TH community. :D

I doubt it will work with analoge settings though, so CRT's won't be an option unfortunately. A VGA to DVI converter is the same as regular VGA input, since the signal still will be the same as on a VGA cable, only that the cable interface will differ.


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I see no reason for it not to work with mini-DisplayPort to DVI, or mini-DisP to DVI to VGA if that was needed.

Unless the link needs to be HDCP negotiated. Then VGA will be in trouble. DVI might be too, depending on the monitor.

The ability to run TripleHead... but better... and without a hardware box and the double bothers of hardware/firmware and software/driver issues... is amazing.

If they can get CrossFire working quickly for it in Windows (or better yet, one card per screen EyeFinity) then a 5870 and a 2409 are going on my Christmas list. ;)

Myself having an X1950Pro that they recently dropped from support to focus on other GPUs, I definitely am not seeing it as you do. It's apparent to me they have their priorities out of whack.

Hm. The X1950 was a mid-high end card. In no way, shape or form was it 'low end'. Low end is the x3xx series cards - which even now are less powerful than an X1950. Also, now that the 5000 series has been demonstrated, it's four generations old. Their priority will always be to make money. nVidia thought they could do that with buying PhysX, ATi seem to think that there is money to be made in what is essentially a software equivalent of TripleHead. Given that TH is a small but significant market, it doesn't seem like a bad idea to me. To each their own, though. :)


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If they can get CrossFire working quickly for it in Windows (or better yet, one card per screen EyeFinity) then a 5870 and a 2409 are going on my Christmas list. ;)



Ill buy the 5870 2 Gb asap, im tired of the 5040x1050 57Hz + DX 9 limit of matrox, even that chinese adapter can run DX 10 at 5040x1050 60 Hz, and eyefinity supports DX 9, DX 10 and DX 11 at any resolution.


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I see no reason for it not to work with mini-DisplayPort to DVI, or mini-DisP to DVI to VGA if that was needed.

Unless the link needs to be HDCP negotiated. Then VGA will be in trouble. DVI might be too, depending on the monitor.

The ability to run TripleHead... but better... and without a hardware box and the double bothers of hardware/firmware and software/driver issues... is amazing.

If they can get CrossFire working quickly for it in Windows (or better yet, one card per screen EyeFinity) then a 5870 and a 2409 are going on my Christmas list. ;)

DP has HDMI/DVI cable pass through support (therefore a simple adapter will do).

If the DP has VGA pass through, then you'll need a DP to VGA adapter.

You'll (should) not be able to go by DP to DVI-I to VGA...


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DP needs a simple adapter for HDMI & DVI Single Link
for DVI Dual Link & VGA, DP needs an active adapter
source: the french wikipedia article


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I agree that eyefinity has the potential to really boost our community, it wont just be the rich kids toy anymore and flight sim fanatics, now higher end mainstream gamers may venture into ultra wide setups, plus it gives game developers a lot more reason to shoot for native ultra wide fov support.

here is hoping the $8 DP --> DVI adapter works otherwise shame on ATI for making the card in a way that we cant use the 2x DVI & 1x HDMI to run 3 normal monitors that do not have DP.

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I'm hoping that they let AIB's customize the 5850, thats all I will be able to afford, and I would love to see a tri DVI card for nice and easy VGA compatibility. (not to mention cheap!)


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I'm hoping that they let AIB's customize the 5850, thats all I will be able to afford, and I would love to see a tri DVI card for nice and easy VGA compatibility. (not to mention cheap!)


Looking at the pic of the regular port-out configuration, it looks like 3 DVI would definitely would be able to fit, just put the 3rd DVI where the dp and hdmi port is sitting on the faceplate.

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