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If a jar of piss is in a vat of piss is it still a jar of piss or a jar in a vat of piss?

If we are led to believe that the jar has piss in it and the lid is closed and sealed, then it would be a jar of piss in a vat of piss.
If we are to believe that the jar is empty with the lid closed and sealed (or no lid at all), then it would be a jar in a vat of piss.

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If we are to believe that the jar is empty with the lid closed and sealed (or no lid at all), then it would be a jar in a vat of piss.

I think you are confusing two issues here.

1. An empty and sealed jar in a vat of piss

2. A lidless jar full of piss in a vat of piss

The question is if the state of the jar which may or may not be a jar of piss changes based on its presence in the vat of piss. Is it possible for a jar to be just a jar in a vat of piss and then become a jar of piss upon its removal from the vat of piss? Or is a jar of piss a fixed state entity and is therefore always a jar of piss?

[quote]If a jar of piss is in a vat of piss is it still a jar of piss or a jar in a vat of piss?

If we are led to believe that the jar has piss in it and the lid is closed and sealed, then it would be a jar of piss in a vat of piss.
If we are to believe that the jar is empty with the lid closed and sealed (or no lid at all), then it would be a jar in a vat of piss.

Thank you, I'll be here for a while.

Have not played since new update, but sounds like it was a good change to me.

I understand the bane of random item drops, as an avid MMO player random item drops have always been the bane of my exsistance. Taking 2 months to get something all my friends get in 2 days....

But atleast no more "cheating" to get items in achievment servers and people can just play now and have things come as they come instead of having half your team run off trying to do oddball stuff for achievments.

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But atleast no more "cheating" to get items in achievment servers and people can just play now and have things come as they come instead of having half your team run off trying to do oddball stuff for achievments.

Nope, cheating is worse than ever. Someone over at valve forgot to check if someone was actually playing... the game. (You just lost)

So I look at my friends tab in the server browser this morning, 7/10 of the servers are on achivement_idle.

The problem is that it *is* a jar of piss. As opposed to something more in character but with the same functionality, like, say, flashbangs (which amplify damage, interfere with spytech toys, and douse flames).

The thing is that it is perfectly in character and fits great in the humor of the game.
Jarate dates back over a year ago, from the sniper movie. when hes camping out hes filling the jars up.

The thing is that it is perfectly in character and fits great in the humor of the game.

It really doesn't at all. Pee grenades would fit in great with Conker's Bad Fur Day, but TF2's humor has always been a few notches above that.

Jarate dates back over a year ago, from the sniper movie. when hes camping out hes filling the jars up.

That's not jarate. That's just the sniper's way of relieving himself without giving away his position. Jarate dates back to an April Fool's Day joke. And if it really was fitting with TF2's humor, it wouldn't have worked as an April Fool's Day joke at all.

I just don't like the piss thing. I thought my monitor was going out when I first experienced it...It doesn't seem to harm you either...I just think of it along the same lines of pissing on people in real life...its degrading. I think this is a line I don't like...might have to say goodbye to TF2.

I just don't like the piss thing. I thought my monitor was going out when I first experienced it...It doesn't seem to harm you either...I just think of it along the same lines of pissing on people in real life...its degrading. I think this is a line I don't like...might have to say goodbye to TF2.

I mainly use it to put out fires on myself by chucking it at my feet. Also when it's on one of your enemies they take, what I think are, 'mini-crits'. No idea the exact details but just from playing they seem to take maybe 50% of the usual crit damage.

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35% more damage for a mini crit via Jarate.

It does mini crits, helps identify spies etc. Minicrits don't help that much, they do help a bit.

Alteast they fixed the ambassador.