Can you pillarbox?

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kyleb
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Post by kyleb »

btw wouldnt the fact that the crt is 4:3 and the lcd is 16:10 cause problems when using them at the same time?

In extended desktop mode you can run each monitor in it's proper aspect ratio with it's own resolution, the options both in the desttop properties and Catalyst Control Center.

and if I understand this correctly, there is no way to get pillarboxing without digital-in?

I'm pretty sure you can by creating a resolution within a resolution with powerstrip, though I've never bothered to try as my display has an aspect ratio button on the remote.
Baza
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Post by Baza »

In extended desktop mode you can run each monitor in it's proper aspect ratio with it's own resolution, the options both in the desttop properties and Catalyst Control Center.

I see, thanks for the info.
I'm pretty sure you can by creating a resolution within a resolution with powerstrip, though I've never bothered to try as my display has an aspect ratio button on the remote.

That seems a lot of work... I better get an lcd with digital-in :)
I have today successfully returned this one for a full refund, so until I find a good one to buy, I'm back on my crt :)

During these days of my widescreen gaming, I found that this forum is a great help and I wish to thank everyone for helping me here, and for everything else that helped me get some games working properly :)
Kingshand
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Post by Kingshand »

1) Radeon x1600
2) 7.4
3) No, even though the option is there

Maybe someone can help me out. The Image Scaling option in the catalyst menu is there for me, but it doesn't do a thing. I've tried both ways and no matter what I get the stretched full screen.

I've got a Hanns G HW192D through DVI. I don't think the monitor should really matter though.

I have no idea if my drivers are old, if I should update, if that would help or what. Does anyone have an idea?

I checked this thread too:
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/6170
and nothing helped.

EDIT: Just updated to the latest drivers and no difference.
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StingingVelvet
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Post by StingingVelvet »

The 8800GTS 640 using the newest nVidia drivers does pillarbox using the previously mentioned method in the nVidia control panel.

I use it for Sam and Max and Just Cause mostly...
crrimson
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Post by crrimson »

I'm having trouble getting pillarbox to work. I just bought a Samsung 906BW widescreen 19" monitor. I love it. But my favorite games Starcraft and Warcraft 3 get stretched out, and I can't get pillarbox to work. I have the latest Nvidia drivers 93.71, and I don't see this option:

Using Classic View

* First select 'nView Display Settings' and click on the 'Device Settings' button. Deselect "Treat digital Display as HDTV"


Don't laugh: I have a GeForce3 ti200. This card was all I really needed to run these games. Any suggestions, Starcraft looks awful!

Thanks.
NightBlade
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Post by NightBlade »

You might not have to disable that (I didn't need to). Go to nView Display Settings, click the "Device Settings" Button and select "Device Adjustments". From here pick the "Fixed Aspect Ratio" radio button and click OK. Keep in mind you have to be using DVI for all of this to become available.
crrimson
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Post by crrimson »

So I have to be using DVI to use pillarbox? Unfortunately my video card only has VGA out.

Also I cannot find "nView Display Settings" anywhere. And in the
Advanced resolutions and refresh rates window, the "flat panel scaling"
dropdown menu is grayed out.
Sweetz
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Post by Sweetz »

Yes.

Samsung LN-T2653H = HDTV = built in pillarboxing.

Seriously HDTVs are the way to go if you want widescreen, so much more flexible vs dedicated PC LCDs.
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Post by The_cranky_hermit »

Can you run 1920x692 on your HDTV? With correct letterboxing and everything? I can on my LCD monitor.
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Post by Sweetz »

Can you run 1920x692 on your HDTV? With correct letterboxing and everything? I can on my LCD monitor.

No, but why would I want to? That's a rather odd resolution.

I know there are some dedicated PC monitors with great built in aspect handling and scaling, but most do not have that - whereas most HDTVs do. HDTVs typically also have an advantage in that they're more easily used for other purposes (TV, consoles). However, it is not my intention to start an argument on the subject or hijack this thread. I guess I should say that getting any type of display with built in aspect handing is the way to go if you want widescreen.
crrimson
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Post by crrimson »

I need to verify this. Do I need DVI to use pillarboxing, or can I do it
with VGA?

Stevedroid said "Yes", but then started talking about something completely different.
NightBlade
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Post by NightBlade »

I need to verify this. Do I need DVI to use pillarboxing, or can I do it
with VGA?

Stevedroid said "Yes", but then started talking about something completely different.


Only DVI, unless you have a monitor that has built in aspect scaling functionality (usually only with larger and more expensive displays).
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Post by crrimson »

Thank you. Thats disappointing, I was hoping I could squeeze just a little more life out of this GeForce 3, before I built a whole new computer. I don't really feel like putting any more money into this old system... maybe I'll have to try and find a cheap video card with DVI.
crrimson
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Post by crrimson »

Haha ok, so I bought a video card with DVI for my monitor, so that I could use pillarboxing. I still cannot get pillarboxing to work.

Video Card - Geforce 6200
Monitor - Samsung 906BW

And I'm trying to run Warcraft 3 with pillarboxing and it still stretches the screen. What's going on here?
BlueMak
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Post by BlueMak »

Crap drivers.
crrimson
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Post by crrimson »

Crap drivers? I believe it. DVI didn't even work with Nvidia's drivers on the website, so I downloaded thier beta drivers and DVI works, but I still can't get pillarboxing to.

I'm using Forceware 163.44 beta.

Does anyone know of any versions that will work for my situation? Again I have a geforce 6200 and a Samsung 906BW 19" widescreen.

Thanks, I hope so because thats why I got the new video card in the first place!
BlueMak
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Post by BlueMak »

Try Forceware 96 and lower till you get the one that works. One of them I think it works. Plus, you don't have anything to lose. Just make sure you clean install them. (unistall the current ones, reboot, then install the "new" ones).

Or, instal version 94 something that should work. Then go to the nvidia control panel. If the nvidia correct aspect thingy is grayed out, then go to Manage Custom Resolutions and UNtick where it is Treat as HDTV.
If it works, you can slowly upgrade your drivers till you find the newest that work (doubt you will go more than 96.)
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Post by The_cranky_hermit »

No,

Then you are incorrect to say that HDTVs are "the way to go" for widescreen on the grounds of flexibility.

why would I want to?

For that wider-than-widescreen cinematic feel.

I know there are some dedicated PC monitors with great built in aspect handling and scaling, but most do not have that

The capabilities of the monitor have nothing to do with it. It's all in the video card. *Any* 24" monitor can display a letterboxed 1920x692 resolution, as long as it has DVI and your video card is decent.
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Post by Mesh »

My scaling options didn't work properly till I used the NvidiaOverscanUtils found at http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1684.

I apologize for not crediting the original post, I lost the thread.

Before of the four scaling options only nvidia scaling with messed aspect and monitor scaling worked, after enabling that fix, pillar box / nvidia scaling with keeping aspect works fine.

edit- this is with forceware 162.18
crrimson
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Given up.

Post by crrimson »

Well, I've tried a lot of different drivers, options, settings, etc.... And pillarboxing still doesn't work properly. I give up.
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