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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2014, 13:50 
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This is a clever mini-feature indeed, but a far cry from actual PLP and "H pattern" support, isn't it ?
Both AMD and Nvidia will have to completely rethink their respective solutions before they can really *support* (not just adapt to) mismatched display configs, and finally start to challenge SoftTH in this field...

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Somehow I don't see that happen.
(I'm more interested in TressFX and HairWorks tbh. Can't wait to play me some Flea Simulator over a triple-screen display covered in realistic dog fur fluttering in the breeze. The future is rad.)


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2014, 15:27 
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4960x1600 is still better than 3440x1440 in my opinion as you are still getting more in both directions, i would not give up my 4960x1600 for 3440x1440.


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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:01 
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I assume if you can run PLP in this H type setup then it is possible to run it in a 20/30/20 (1200x1600+2560x1600+1200x1600) configuration such as the attached pic?


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Delphium - Yes, that is the basic support that is expected. But as I noted in my original post, I'm not sure how popular or necessary this basic support is, now that we have 21:9 displays. The "H" was a unique config that I thought would give reason for PLP.


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skipclarke wrote:
Delphium - Yes, that is the basic support that is expected.

Nice, I know many a folk have been looking for such for a long time.
Shame its currently tied to the new R9 285.

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Aren't rumours that the new generation AMD cards are coming in February? They should also support this.

And now Imagine this beauty:AOC u3477Pqu
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in 3440x1440 with two 1440x900 support Monitors on the side :D 5240x1440 3.638:1

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PlP support is awesome.
I just don't have horizontal space on my desk to sport anything bigger than 3*21" widescreens,
so I recently switched to a 21:9 and rotated my old 19" to portrait orientation ( planning to upgrade to 23" at some point )

While a 21:9 is kind of wide enough for gaming and doesn't require a killer machine to power it, it kind of makes me a sad panda to see the side-displays doing nothing.

I wish the market would have more options for matching side-screens. It's almost impossible to find matching screens with same bezels / pixel density

Haldi, I have 900*1400 screens as side-monitors atm, and unfotunately they don't provide enough horizontal space for productive work. most websites nowadays are 1024+ :(
Also, good luck finding matching 15.5" ones to match the pixel density of the 34" 21:9 :wtf:


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Delphium wrote:
I assume if you can run PLP in this H type setup then it is possible to run it in a 20/30/20 (1200x1600+2560x1600+1200x1600) configuration such as the attached pic?
Ahh yes, thanks for the clarification. Great news then :mrgreen: and time for Nvidia to follow suit.
Classic PLP may be a niche in the niche, but it makes much more sense than triple-HD in my book.


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Delphium wrote:
I assume if you can run PLP in this H type setup then it is possible to run it in a 20/30/20 (1200x1600+2560x1600+1200x1600) configuration such as the attached pic?


skipclarke wrote:
Delphium - Yes, that is the basic support that is expected. But as I noted in my original post, I'm not sure how popular or necessary this basic support is, now that we have 21:9 displays. The "H" was a unique config that I thought would give reason for PLP.


Yeah, PLP was never huge to begin with, based on the rarity of 20" 1600x1200 panels (all of which have been discontinued by now)

Of those of us who did go this route, many have simply given up now, after 4+ years of hoping and praying for the support, but it never coming.

It does offer flexibility for gamers of the future, and whatever screens they can get their hands on though.

That being said, I still have mine, (Dell 2007FP 1200x1600 - Dell U3011 2560x1600 - Dell 2007FP 1200x1600), and I am REALLY looking forward to this feature.

I do like the breakdown of the announcement in this post, but ahve you guys been able to actually test mixed rotation Eyefinity?

The one user who has posted in these forums (and well, anywhere online) has been unsuccessful with his R9 285, and I'd like to see at least one successful test before spending the cash.

What my setup looked like 4 years ago (haha, still had an iPhone) and still mostly does:
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I have different speakers now :p

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PostPosted: 16 Dec 2014, 22:59 
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The problem with 20/30/20 PLP layout is its weight. Total gaming pixel-count 7,936,000. You would need 3 R9 285 cards to run it maxed, because the card is not that strong. Not the ideal card for heavy beast PLP, but would work in theory.

But card works solo alright for light versions. I have lightweight 19/27/19 (total gaming pixel-count 3,801,600). Manual PLP tests of R9 285 (stock clock):
- Metro Last Light Redux 2014: can't max, unplayable FPS.
- Dragon Age Inquisition 2014: maxed with playable FPS, but game feels smoother & better unmaxed.

Extra cards are of little help for manual PLP, as it's usually achieved in windowed. Eyefinity PLP with Crossfire would make 20/30/20 a decent gaming option.


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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2014, 03:10 
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I am a Nvidia guy my self, but man this looks pretty amazing, good times if you are running AMD, very nice.

Great article to btw :rockout:


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imusrt wrote:
The problem with 20/30/20 PLP layout is its weight. Total gaming pixel-count 7,936,000. You would need 3 R9 285 cards to run it maxed, because the card is not that strong. Not the ideal card for heavy beast PLP, but would work in theory.

But card works solo alright for light versions. I have lightweight 19/27/19 (total gaming pixel-count 3,801,600). I can't max Metro Last Light Redux 2014 in manual PLP with R9 285 (not overclocked. Only 1 game tested).

Extra cards are of little help for manual PLP, as it's usually achieved in windowed. Eyefinity PLP with Crossfire would make 20/30/20 a decent gaming option.


Agreed.

The R9 285 isn't powerful enough for 20/30/20 at least not on its own, and maybe not even with multiple cards due to limited VRAM, and the poor scaling with Crossfire/SLI.

I'm more interested in this as it seems to suggest the next gen Radeon 3xx series will support the feature as well.

I've had this single Titan since early 2013, and if something comes out that is more powerful AND supports my PLP setup, you bet I'm upgrading in short order.


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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2014, 21:47 
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I received Club 3D response regarding R9 285 lack of mixed rotation support. Result: no graphics card currently works in PLP, likely due to Omega driver. It is now being researched by engineers & AMD for future correction, thanks to Club 3D's good support.

I will be posting all such responses in this thread:
http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=27774


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The one time that AMD should of leaked this announcement. Just got two 970 gtx's two weeks ago. Had a 5970 and then two 7950 sapphire flex boost cards in crossrfire. I for sure would of waited for the 390 if I knew this functionality was inbound. Multimonitor in NVidia sux. I use 2x dell 1680x1050 with dp on the outside and my u2711 2560x1440 in the middle it would of been great to do the 1680x1050's in portrait on the outside.

Kind of mad to be honest. The one time I wish something was leaked it isn't.


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I've been begging for PLP support. I have NVIDIA now, i may need to switch for an ATI...
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JESTSTAR wrote:
I've been begging for PLP support. I have NVIDIA now, i may need to switch for an ATI...
...SNIP...

Give it a wait first. So far support isn't there yet, even with the R9 285 (that's supposed to have support, but doesn't).

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