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 Post subject: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2011, 12:26 
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Well having played the demo I can say with great joy that it seems to be pretty friendly towards multi-monitor setups, unlike its predecessors. There's a few background images in loading screens that don't scale right but ultimately all the GUIs and such seem to stay in their rightful places and don't stretch all to hell when in triple-screen resolutions. Due to a failing PSU I'm only playing with a single GTX280 so yah pair that with triple screen and high detail settings it was pretty savage at about 20fps but once the PSU is replaced and I'm back to 3xGTX280s I'll come back and post some proper battle screen shots.

The demo's available as a 5.5gb DL on steam right now and any fans of the Total war series really outta give it a shot, I think this game will redeem the series from the short-comings of Empires and its one of the few strategy games where I think the triple will be just awesome for keeping an eye on large scale battle formations and what not. The demo lets you play through a whole mini-campaign involving conquering a few territories and showing the various aspects of the campaign game play. I'm stoke for it and glad they put the demo out so early.

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Campaign map GUI 3840x1024:

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2011, 13:01 
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Sounds great, thanks for the heads up.


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
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it seems to be pretty friendly towards multi-monitor setups, unlike its predecessors.
Actually its predecessors (Empire & Napoleon) were both natively Hor+ as well. :roll:

Any comment on the LOD in surround ? I read a few complaints from single-screen users about the grass popping in and out of view a bit too quickly as you zoom, does surround make it less/more distracting ?


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 27 Feb 2011, 14:45 
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[quote]it seems to be pretty friendly towards multi-monitor setups, unlike its predecessors.
Actually its predecessors (Empire & Napoleon) were both natively Hor+ as well. :roll:

Any comment on the LOD in surround ? I read a few complaints from single-screen users about the grass popping in and out of view a bit too quickly as you zoom, does surround make it less/more distracting ?
Oh heh didn't realize Empires was also good to go for triple resolutions too, honestly didn't play that game very much at all. I didn't notice anything unusual about the level of detail shifting as you zoomed around but again I was playing with pretty terrible FPS with only one card, I should be getting the new PSU this week (phew) and then I can give a better description of the in-battle side of things.

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 15 Mar 2011, 13:44 
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Since the demo there are a few things changed for multi monitor gaming. The HUD is now centered to the middle monitor witch is a good thing of course but there are some problems that occur now.

In the battle map the selection box scales according to 3 monitors but it works on the center monitor so it is way to small. Luckily the selection you make is correct en does not correspond with the selection box.

Another problem is that when you enter a side monitor with your mouse the camera moves because the mouse is outside the HUD area.
So the site monitors only function as a extra display but there is no way to use them other than that.

In the campaign map the mouse movement and everything seems correct but they made a small mistake with city names.
The city names are all centered with the HUD but also if the city is on the center monitor. There positioning relative to each other is correct and therefore the names of city's on the center monitor are incorrect to.

I really hope these problems will be fixed (soon) as the game plays brilliant.

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 17 Mar 2011, 00:08 
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Since the demo there are a few things changed for multi monitor gaming...
My game is nothing like that. :shock:
What is your resolution ? Did you fiddle with any file ?


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 17 Mar 2011, 23:24 
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I didn't change anything,
Maybe its a ATI thing...
Here the screenshots of what changed.


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 11:10 
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How did you get the UI in the middle?

Am using 3x24" eyefinity landscape and no matter what i do the interface elements are at the ends of the screen?

Any help would be apriciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 12:09 
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Same here, with or without bezel compensation, my UI is NOT centered :?


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 17:58 
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OK, have tried all kind of diferent things but can't get the UI to center.

Have tried the following:

- ATI Cataylst 10.2 and 11.2
- bezzel and no bezzel compensation
- eyefinity landscape or extended mode
- all kind of in game graphics and cataylst control option combinations

Am open to new ideas... but i have no more...
Maybe the dude that posted screens with the centered UI photoshoped them... :)))

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 19:31 
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Have you guys instlaled full Catalyst Suite?

CCC2 + HydraVision?

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 21:21 
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Actualy didn't have hydravision installed....

So i did install it...

and unfortunately it didnt help :)

Thnx anyway on the idea, was a good one.


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 09:53 
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Maybe have found the problem, but don't know how to fix it.

On Steam (since Shogun2 is a steam game), under system information Steam shows under "Number of monitors" only 1 with 5700x1020 resolution.

So maybe somehow the game isn't recognizing that it is actualy 3 monitors.....


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 15:46 
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Nah, that's normal. It says the same thing here, but games like Mafia 2 detect 3 screens without any problems and put the HUD on the center screen.
But I haven't tested Shogun 2, yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 17:03 
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I didnt change anything at all, the UI was just centered at first launch.

I have installed the whole Catalyst suite 11.2 and 11.4 with the same results.
I didn't modify anything!

I don't know why it is centered but the campaign map is quite annoying with the city names this way...

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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 07:31 
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Well i can't get it to center no matter what i do.... realy don't know anymore....
The only thing to do is to maybe reinstall the game, but it is 16gb download....


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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 14:13 
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It is worth trying, I bought the game on steam so I only downloaded it.

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Tried reinstall, didn't help.


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 18:07 
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Do you guys have identical Displays!? Or different displays?

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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 18:22 
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Ofc identical.

3x Acer V243H.

It works fine on other games, let's say Bad Company 2.

But Shogun.... it will be the end of me :)


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 18:33 
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Mine are not identical, same resolution tho.
I got 2*226BW of samsung and 1 Dell P2210. The dell is connected with display-port and in the center, the other monitors are connected over dvi...

If anybody has any clue in which files the HUD is stored I will upload it for you guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 19:28 
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Have recconected minitors so that the dp monitor is in the middle and ofc it didn't help.

Damn u Shogun... damn u!!!!! :)


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FYI I am running windows 7 64 bit ultimate.
Within a week I get a new pc and we will see if my HUD stays in the center.

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
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Centered HUD would be nice, it's too hard to play the game otherwise.

Also in the demo, there were some graphical glitches like the shadows looking too pixellated for Surround gaming mode. Did they fix that in retail?


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
PostPosted: 25 Mar 2011, 07:18 
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HUD did not center on my system. Win 7 64 bit, dual 560ti 2GB

Only glitches I noticed was videos stretched on all 3 monitors. Game itself played well.


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
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CILLER, don't tell me your cinematics are not stretched, either ??

One Eyefinity guy has a centered HUD in Shogun 2. And one (other) Eyefinity guy had non cut-off menus in Alpha Protocol. And yet all other Eyefinity guys don't have these. I'm one puzzled Nv Surround guy right here. :?


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Not so much cinematics but startup movies are centered, allso subtitles of the generals speeches are nicely on the middle monitor. The best part even is, it keeps my bezel correction in account so no HUD items behind the bezel!
Loading screens (the background image) are vert-

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
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So still no solution on how to get the game to detect an eyefinity setup...?

Have a sega support ticket out, maybe they have an idea.... Will let you know if they come up with something...

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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
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I was wondering if anyone else can see avatar conquest map in multiplayer. If I switch to single monitor it works, but at 5760x1200 it doesn't show up?


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
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I can run it now thanks to 11.4p drivers! yay. 11.2 wasn't fast enough fps so it felt laggy in eyefinity and I just played one monitor landscape.

I play play portrait mode 3240x1920 btw. HUD centers nicely be default on the center monitor. Videos/intro vid are a bit small. The winning video stretches horrible on the center screen only. I can use the other left and right monitors on the campaign just fine, but battle map makes the center mon always stay centered and mousing to left and right monitors turns the screen.

So playable for me, but a few minor issues. Graphics are amazing though for dx9 they beat a lot of the dx11/10 stuff I've seen. I can't wait to see dx11.


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PostPosted: 08 Apr 2011, 22:22 
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Did you do anything special to get the HUD to center?

What kind of ati catalyst options do you use?

Any info would be apriciated so we get to the bottom of this.

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PostPosted: 28 Apr 2011, 22:15 
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Bought it and hud does not center, intro movie stretched :(


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
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wooohooooo

hey guys ive just found something that worked for me to get the HUD centered.

in your catalyst control center, go to video, then video settings.

then under advanced quality, UNCHECK the enable checkbox for Edge-enhancement.

this worked for me immediately.


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wooohooooo

hey guys ive just found something that worked for me to get the HUD centered.

in your catalyst control center, go to video, then video settings.

then under advanced quality, UNCHECK the enable checkbox for Edge-enhancement.

this worked for me immediately.


Hey I wonder if that will also fix the blurry edges I've been noticing in games like Total War lately when using triple-wide resolutions?


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I can't find anything similar to Edge enhancement in nvidia drivers. :(
Hey I wonder if that will also fix the blurry edges I've been noticing in games like Total War lately when using triple-wide resolutions?
I dunno, wouldn't unchecking 'Vignette' in the game options fix this already ?


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wooohooooo

hey guys ive just found something that worked for me to get the HUD centered.

in your catalyst control center, go to video, then video settings.

then under advanced quality, UNCHECK the enable checkbox for Edge-enhancement.

this worked for me immediately.



Unfortunately this didn't work. Anyone come up with any solutions? Im pulling my hair out. Have a number of open threads on the Shogun forums but theres no help there either. I just built my pc last week, running a simple 3x1 landscape Eyefinity. The HUD on the edges makes the game unplayable :( I've seen YouTube vids with the centered UI and they said they didnt have to do anything special. SO FRUSTRATING.


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PostPosted: 24 May 2011, 23:12 
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I didnt change anything at all, the UI was just centered at first launch.

I have installed the whole Catalyst suite 11.2 and 11.4 with the same results.
I didn't modify anything!

I don't know why it is centered but the campaign map is quite annoying with the city names this way...



Do you have the dvd version or the Steam version? I spoke with someone who had a centered UI and he had the dvd version. My Steam version does not have the centered UI.


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 Post subject: Re: Total War: Shogun 2
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Even if you bought the DVD, this is a Steamworks game, so... Kind of a moot point, isn't it ? Or is it ? :?


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I was talking with someone on the AMD forums who says he can get it to center, but only on lower resolutions. He said he plays it x720. 5760x1200 is a no-go.


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Was anyone ever able to figure this out? I am also not getting a centered HUD - running 6048x1080 or 5760x1080 with Catalyst 12.2 on the Steam version, fully patched. I have tried with crossfire on and off.


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I was disabling crossfire via. CCC (editing the game profile). If I physically turn Crossfire off in CCC (instead of just selecting crossfire disabled for Shogun II), my HUD is centered. This is very similar to Deus Ex HR's behavior.

I am able to get a centered HUD with crossfire enabled if I switch from my eyefinity profile to extended and then back prior to launching the game.


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