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Author:  math_67 [ 18 Aug 2015, 09:25 ]
Post subject:  12 Screens videowall

Hello,

i'm looking for a solution to drive a 12 screens HD videowall with a single computer with graphics cards.

I'ld like the following arrangement : 2 rows of 6 screens in portrait mode and I like to have only one large desktop under win7 64.


I bought 3 sapphire firepro W7100 cards (i've only 2 for the moment, last one in order) and one S400 firepro sync card. W7100 is a 4 DP output card.

For the moment i've only 2 cards connected and so only 8 screens running.

But i can't have more than 4 screens on eyefinity. Only on one single card seems to be abble to work on eyefinity mode on the same time.

Someone have any idea ? Before i bought all this cards, the sapphire support told me it's possible to do that... but more i try and more i thouht it's not possible.



Sorry for my poor english ...

Thank's for any help.

Math

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Author:  Delphium [ 18 Aug 2015, 14:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: 12 Screens videowall

Hi :welcome

There is a way to achieve this, however as you pointed out there is a limitation to Eyefinity, with a max of 6 monitors, not 4 as you put, and Eyefinity grouping does not work across cards.

There is however a way around this with the use of some additional hardware or software, each with their own limitations, to be able to achieve the 12x video wall you are looking to create.


SOFTWARE:
If you are looking to play games based on DX9 then it is possible to use some software called SoftTH which will allow a vast array of monitors to be used, creating its own sudo Eyefinity grouping across multiple cards, the software is limited but it is a free solution.

Other DX9 based applications may work when rendered in fullscreen mode.


HARDWARE:
You have a W7100 which supports 4x DP1.2 outputs.
Each DP output has enough bandwidth to drive up to 4x 1920x1200@60hz

Using this card, or two of them in Crossfire, you can connect all 12 monitors to a single card using the configuration of hardware below...

Using 2x 2-port MST hubs from the W7100 it is possible to extend the total DP outputs from 4 to 6.
From these 6x DP outputs one may then use the Zotac Dual HDMI adaptors, there is a thread here with more information.

According to BHawthorne it is possible to run the adapters in portrait mode...
BHawthorne wrote:
The behavior of the adapter is that on the two 1024x768 projectors I threw on it, it detected up to 2048x768 for the max resolution in the microsoft display control panel. It sees 2048x768 and 1600x600 for dual resolutions. And 1920x1080 down to 800x600 on single resolutions. Single resolutions are cloned to both displays much like how Eyefinity does. When you force portrait mode on it it'll make 2048x768 it into 768x2048 not 1536x1024, so it's treated like a pseudo-single display.


This will allow you to run the 12 monitors natively on a single card as the Zotac dual HDMI adapters are seen as a single monitor each, with further splits the image, so in windows you will technically see 6 monitors, each with a resolution that combines 2 monitors each, and you will be able to setup an Eyefinity configuration accordingly.

Note that only the FirePro range support 6x portrait monitors, consumer Eyefinity cards only allow 5x portrait monitor configurations.

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Author:  math_67 [ 18 Aug 2015, 14:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: 12 Screens videowall

Hi thank you for your anwser... but i just read about the release not of the last firepro driver and i saw :
"Eyefinity™ Pro
Eyefinity Pro provides users with the ability to expand display configurations beyond the output
capabilities of a single graphics card. Use up to four graphics cards to drive up to 24 displays as a
single desktop. A beta of this feature is now available through a special driver build option."

so normaly with my configuration, as the support say i may be abble to do what i want....


I've 3 club MST 1 by 4 adapters and i try several way in order to connect differents screns, in landscape mode for beggining. But with not a lot of success.

I ll try some other tests ...

math

Author:  Delphium [ 19 Aug 2015, 10:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: 12 Screens videowall

Ah right, Ive not long returned from a long festival and not caught wind of that news about a new beta driver for eyefinity pro.
That would make things a bit easier for sure, ill read into it and see if there is anything i can share.

Author:  math_67 [ 20 Aug 2015, 10:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: 12 Screens videowall

Hello,

i'm in touch with AMD support, they ll build a new driver to support the wall i need to build. In fact there is a special app to build a big eyfinity between 2 or more gpu. With a other build of the GPU driver i already be abble to make a eyfinity with 3 screens connected on 3 different GPU. That's not possible with the normal driver/efinity software.

So i've to wait a little time to get it. Maybe next week, but i've faith to find a solution.

Math

For the moment i'm abble to send signal in extended desktop :) it's pretty nice !

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Author:  Delphium [ 20 Aug 2015, 17:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: 12 Screens videowall

Hey math_67, thanks for posting back with an update.
I had a look around and could not find any concrete information regarding being able to span an eyefinity configuration across multiple GPU's.
Sadly I have no Firepro cards to test with.

Glad to hear that AMD are stepping up to the plate to release a driver for you to be able to achieve this.

Is this a user specific driver, or is this something you think you or AMD can share with the greater community?

Author:  math_67 [ 21 Aug 2015, 07:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: 12 Screens videowall

Hi,
i'll gire you informations as soon as i've answer from the support.

I've to be patient.

Math

Author:  duniek [ 09 Oct 2015, 19:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: 12 Screens videowall

Can you make a screenshot of windows screen prosperites

so if this new driver (eyefinity pro) allows to using multiple cards (4) - this will be very good news bcoz 3-monitor firepro are very cheap right now so doing 3x3 wall will be very easy

Author:  suiken_2mieu [ 09 Oct 2015, 23:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: 12 Screens videowall

Question, Can firepro cards game?

Author:  duniek [ 10 Oct 2015, 00:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: 12 Screens videowall

If you look closer on specs you can see

W9100 = R9 290x (w9100 has 16gb ram instead 4/8gb on R9 290X)
W9000 = HD7970 (w9000 has 6gb ram instead 3gb on hd7970)
W8000 = HD7950 (w8000 has 4gb ram instead 3gb on hd7950)


so i think in gaming W9100 will be works the same as r9 290x) just cost a lot more

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