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Is this finally my 20x30x20 PLP solution?


Questions:

1) I have an ATI 6970, can I use it? It has miniDP, or do I have to use a full sized DP from the card?

2) With this enabled, can I create an eyefinity group in PLP?

3) Do i have to use eyefinity? Or will it just run everything on 3 screens on its own.

Man I hope this is what I have been waiting for!!!

1) IIRC 6970 supports DP1.2 So if you use Mini DP or normal DP doesn't matter! There are Adapters from Mini to Normal

2) No!

3) It shows up as Normal Monitors! Not like the Zotac mini DP -> Dual HDMi Adapter which creates one huge Surface!

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+1 what Haldi said.

Think of this like a USB hub, but for monitors using DP.

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Have been waiting so long for this hub, like many others i presume.
But now it seems i need 2 of these to enable 5x1P (and hopefully 5x1P+1) with my 6970.
And with most games being so demanding i better get a 7970/7990 first...

Remarkable its a Dutch company to first deliver the long awaited MST hub

Well, it may be cheaper just to get a card with 6 outputs if you're buying a new card anyway.

Here's a list that needs updating that I put together. I currently have 2 MSI Lightnings and they can do up to six outputs. The reason I want this hub, is so that in the future I can run 5x1 Portrat on screens that require Dual-Link connections (such as 5 2560x1600 monitors or 5 120Hz Monitors) or that if I wanted, I could buy a reference card in the future and still have a lot of outputs to populate.

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Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

Here's Club3D official Page about it.

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Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

it shows in polish reseller (status - not avaible)

http://www.saturion.pl/product/187169/A ... _3xDP.html

listed price - 518zł is about 160$

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belgium 113eur - http://www.lasystems.be/CLUB3D/CSV-5300 ... 45026.html

In other shops 109-120eur, so in US should be about 130-140$, looks real.

Question - is worth spending cash for this hub?

cheaper than a HD7970 Eyefinity 6! oh... wait... they dont exist!

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In the Netherlands 3 shops are now listed, but availabillity/delivery is more then 12 days...
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331947/c ... 9-hub.html

And when i look for other countries Club3d has resellers in:
http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/where- ... ps.en.html
i only see Europe, Japan, Pakistan, Russia and South-Africa but no USA?

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What if i connect it to DP1.1 ? (on video description I see its compatibile with hd5000 series but all 5000 series has DP1.1
Also have I connect it directly to DP port?
I mean, Can I use for example 2meter displayport extension I ask bcoz I read somewhere if displayport cable will be too long, it can't work.
Couple weeks ago I connected monitor over 2meter extension dp-dp and 3meter cable dp-hdmi - it works , but instead dp-hdmi cable i use active dual link adapter i got some problems to run 2560x1600, without extensions works immadately.

Is time to jump this thread. Is actually in stock somewhere http://www.alternate.nl/Club_3D/Club_3D+Multi_Stream_Transport_(MST)_Hub/html/product/1078842/?tk=7&lk=4022

It really is. To bad i don't have tearing and no reason to buy one

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This is just a port expander, not a hardware spanning module. You're still limited to your driver level Eyefinity configurations. What it essentially does is turn any AMD card into an E6 card with two of these. If you need to go above 6x1 Eyefintiy in spanning options you'll need to use Zotac DP to Dual-HDMI adapters for hybrid spanning.

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This. Using the 7970 DC2 for 5x1 right now. Tossed in a vanilla non-ref 7970 for a little extra oompf.

Earlier tonight:



Sorry, my camera's less than stellar.

So... I have been trying to buy one of these forever. Here's the places I've found selling them. (With Stock)

diaboloshop.nl - € 116,25 (Dutch)

Detronshop.nl - € 116,13 (Dutch)

Everit.se - 933 Krona (Swedish) (~$140)

centralpoint.nl - € 116 (Dutch)

Zercom.eu - € 109,80

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Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

What monitors are you running? Also, what did you do to get around tearing? I have tearing on every monitor accept the main one.

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Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

Now stock amazon. Cheapest in hardwareversand.de

But how DVI dual-link works on this? Different model with DVI?

You either use 3x DP to DL-DVI adapters or other hardware from Matrox/Dadapath or such.

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Found a couple more shops for it:

http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/331947/c ... 9-hub.html

Cheapest one just below 100 EUR. All Dutch, but not sure which of them actually send stuff abroad.

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Any tests?
I am wondering if you have to use native DP monitors or maybe active vga/dvi adapter will work.

Sorry, been away on travel.

5x Dell U2412M.

As far as tearing, turn on V-sync and it goes away for me.

Tearing seems to be very game-dependent. Arkham City never tears and only stutters once every 15 mins or so. Planetside 2 tear every time I rotate a little bit... it's an FPS, so pretty much constantly.

Passive adapters are supposed to work. It has tdms clocks imbedded.

Anyone buy one from the US? I want one, but not sure where I should get one from. I'd feel better if it was from amazon, or somewhere in the US.

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Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

You can orded Amazon.co.uk.

Well, I tried. Cant ship to the US.

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System Core: | Intel Core i5-2500K + ASUS P8Z68-V + 16GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333 MHz | Win7 x64 | MSI R7970 Lightning 3GB [1105/1400] |
Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

Different seller? @ £116 price.

Damn, that's expensive. $186 usd. Why cant we get a company to unleash it over here instead of importing.

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System Core: | Intel Core i5-2500K + ASUS P8Z68-V + 16GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333 MHz | Win7 x64 | MSI R7970 Lightning 3GB [1105/1400] |
Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

Guys, are you mainly interested in ADDING (up to) 3 monitors to your current setup with this device? Or is it using your current setup in a different way? Or both perhaps?

I'm just trying to understand exactly what this is capable of.

In theory, could you run one very long display port cable from your vid card to your monitor, and then have this thing at the end right next to your monitors, with 3 short cables from this device to your monitors?

I have 5 monitors, my cards can do up to 6, the issue is that I get massive tearing on all monitors except one depending on how I set it up. I need at least 5 connections that are the same, hence getting one of these. ATM I'm running 3240x1920 instead of 5400x1920. My 5870 Eyefinity 6 was better than my 7970's.

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System Core: | Intel Core i5-2500K + ASUS P8Z68-V + 16GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333 MHz | Win7 x64 | MSI R7970 Lightning 3GB [1105/1400] |
Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

No news from Accell/Bizlink?

Fot those who are interested, yesterday i finaly found a proper review (still only 3 pages) of the Club 3d MST display hub.
Its from a (dutch) site i read daily:
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/4700/club-3d-mst-hub-review-drie-schermen-op-een-displayport-aansluiting
(copy paste in google translate for the few who cant read dutch?)

The conlusion is that it does what Club 3D promisses
(there is even a Club 3D representitive answering questions from readers in the article reactions section)

One of their conlucions is that laptop owners with a dp1.2 VGA card have no problem adding 3 monitors on top of the laptop screen... try carrying that around hehehe
I for one never thought of my laptop but instead am dreaming of a 5x1 portrait gaming setup for so long now.
With a 6970 i know that the eye candy cant be maxed out, and to prevent tearing i need 2 hubs at about 100 euro's a piece.
And for a crossfire setup we need de v2 of the micro stutter prevention catalyst driver, which isnt out yet...
Not to mention the dilemma of waiting for a Radeon HD9000 rumoured to launch in a couple of months

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http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsec ... temid=1064

another review. they say NVidia surround doesn't work?

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Hi, I just got this device and I've been testing it for a bit. I got it in preparation for a 5x1 Eyefinity setup. I currently have a GTX680 and can confirm that Nvidia Surround doesn't work (at least with 320.18 driver):



Also, it doesn't seem to have enough bandwidth to drive three 1440p displays:



I can get two at 1440p but the third stays at 720p.

One surprise was that the device didn't come with a power cable (from AC adaptor to wall), fortunately I had a matching one from my laptop.

Testing this hub in Linux now, still the same limitation. Not sure if it's the graphics card or the hub.



Two of the three 1440p displays work in 2560x1440 but the third has to be 1280x720, no other mode seems to work, not even lower resolution ones.

Interesting, I knew about only being able to have 2 2K displays, but I find the 720p only limitation for the third display strange.

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System Core: | Intel Core i5-2500K + ASUS P8Z68-V + 16GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333 MHz | Win7 x64 | MSI R7970 Lightning 3GB [1105/1400] |
Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

I have purchased one of these MST hubs from Amazon here in the US.
http://www.amazon.com/Club-CSV-5300-Sen ... ds=mst+hub

I have 3x 2560x1700 eDP LCDs. Once I get everything soldered together next week I will be testing these on a GTX 630, GTX 760 4 GB, and I have 2 intel mobos with built-in DP to test with as well.

The GTX 630 has dual DP so I should be able to activate 3 display surround on it for testing using the MST hub. I am mainly interested in testing portrait mode as it would allow for 4k/5k resolution video and games.
If the testing goes well then I might go SLI for surround gaming. (or wait for faster GPUs to run 5k resolution)

That will be awesome if you have those chrome book pixel displays working. Unfortunately, I don't think there's enough bandwidth to run all 3 on the mst hub. Maybe two, but not three.

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System Core: | Intel Core i5-2500K + ASUS P8Z68-V + 16GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333 MHz | Win7 x64 | MSI R7970 Lightning 3GB [1105/1400] |
Display: | 3 x Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC @ 7680x1600 | Dell u3011 |

I have verified that I can run 2 of these displays from the Club 3D MST. It seems like it will work with any DP 1.1 monitors, even if they have funny resolutions.
However I have not been able to get my third display working yet so the surround testing will have to come later, but the adapter works.

However I am seeing that issue where the picture only sometimes comes on, and it goes off at reboot.
So far I have only tested the adapter with these 2 nvidia cards. I will test on some intel Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/Haswell graphics soon.
Unplugging the adapter from the PC and power then re-inserting will fix it when the picture doesn't come on, so my unit might also need that firmware upgrade.



Each display was running at the full 2560x1700 resolution at 60 Hz when both were connected to the adapter.

Also, that seller on Amazon does include a US plug adapter with the kit so you can use it out of the box in the US without hunting down the right power cord.

Bill