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Nice find :)

I also have a similar PLP setup 20" + 30" + 20". I'm getting horrible framerate (< 20 fps) using OP's method in JC2 with 5870 1GB. Then I tried Live For Speed and fps was constant 100, which was great. A lot better and faster than using softTH.
Any idea how to make Team Fortress 2 work in 4960x1600 windowed mode? If I set start parameters "-w 4960 -h 1600 -sw", the game doesn't start at all.

Nice find :)

I also have a similar PLP setup 20" + 30" + 20". I'm getting horrible framerate (< 20 fps) using OP's method in JC2 with 5870 1GB. Then I tried Live For Speed and fps was constant 100, which was great. A lot better and faster than using softTH.
Any idea how to make Team Fortress 2 work in 4960x1600 windowed mode? If I set start parameters "-w 4960 -h 1600 -sw", the game doesn't start at all.

Try this:

"-windowed -w 4960 -h 1600"

for team fortress 2 or any other valve games.

Mine for some reason will not pass over the centre monitor, maybe if we can find a config file so it adds it in menu options.

Try this:

"-windowed -w 4960 -h 1600"

for team fortress 2 or any other valve games.

Mine for some reason will not pass over the centre monitor, maybe if we can find a config file so it adds it in menu options.

Sadly, it's not working. The window shows up for a split second, then it just exits. No error, no nothing...

Excellent workaround for those games it works with. :)

Those using a dual-GPU card might find that only one GPU is actually working, though - for some reason, Just Cause 2 always loads up in a window for me (Alt+Enter cures it) and with my 4870X2, I get around half the framerate in a window that I do fullscreen. I presume this is because the internal CrossFire isn't working correctly out of fullscreen mode, but I don't know that for sure.

Someone with a 5970 could test to see if it has the same effect on the 5000 series?

Although nobody asked for it, I thought I would post this info in this thread just in case :
http://grismar.net/shiftwindow/ may help to auto-center windowed games ...

edit: (and therefore hide the window title bar & borders should they exist...)

DoubleJJ, would you be able to record some footage of a few games running on the 5x1 portrait setup? I've been loving my 3x1 landscape setup, but I think 5x1 would keep the widescreen I want and give me the height I'm looking for. I'd love to see it in action first though.

DoubleJJ, would you be able to record some footage of a few games running on the 5x1 portrait setup? I've been loving my 3x1 landscape setup, but I think 5x1 would keep the widescreen I want and give me the height I'm looking for. I'd love to see it in action first though.

Once they release the drivers. With windowed and 1 GPU the performance isn't worth showing.

DoubleJJ, would you be able to record some footage of a few games running on the 5x1 portrait setup? I've been loving my 3x1 landscape setup, but I think 5x1 would keep the widescreen I want and give me the height I'm looking for. I'd love to see it in action first though.

Once they get the drivers, I'm all over it as well.

does this hack only work on steam games ? or will it work on most games ?

Also will a single 5870 be able to drive 4960x1600 AA off and most details on low-medium ?

It works with any games as long as you can change the resolution in the config file and set windowed mode. However some games will simply not work.

My experience is the large majority do with good performance.

Crossfire doesn't work in windowed mode, some limitation in the way Windows handles the display I think. You might be able to get rid of the border using Shift Window fuzioninfinity linked in another thread:
http://grismar.net/shiftwindow/

this makes me wonder... shouldn't this trick work for any x screen desktop setup independently of using an EF card ?

of course then there's the limitations of number of screens and allowed resolutions which are way higher on ATI cards for the moment ..

this makes me wonder... shouldn't this trick work for any x screen desktop setup independently of using an EF card ?

of course then there's the limitations of number of screens and allowed resolutions which are way higher on ATI cards for the moment ..

It will only work off the single card and most GPUs are limited to 2 screens. Also from my experience when ive tried dragging windowed mode games / videos between 2 screens in the past one half of the screen has simply gone black until it was fully on 1 monitor or another, this was with my old GTX280 and 8800GTX. Atis 5 series seems to be the first allowed to do this which was why i was so surprised when it worked!

Tom's hardware has an overview of Eyefinity that doesn't have much new for readers here, but had this (on page 6 - Bezel Comp).

As forum poster Snipe3000 noted in our last Eyefinity piece, the technology’s utility for some users will be limited until a portrait-landscape-portrait mode is supported. (By coincidence, this author happens to use that same arrangement for daily work.) We asked AMD about this and got an honest answer: In the present generation, Eyefinity groups are largely based on cloning. Rotation would have “added a lot more work” to an already intensive effort, and there just wasn’t enough engineering bandwidth to squeeze the feature into the launch.

“We know people who have that configuration for productivity and agree that it can be useful in gaming,” says AMD’s Roger Quero. “So yes, we do have people looking into it.”

Another video if you guys want it lil better quality. Unfortunately my 200mb video got "youtubed" now its only like 50mb so obviously its massively bitrate starved =(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sXcoZj7fwU

Whats interesting is crossfire works in windowed mode in DX10 / 11 games just not older games

Is Just Cause DX9 or DX10?

Is Just Cause DX9 or DX10?

I thought it was 10 but maybe not...? Crossfire certainly isnt working in windowed mode.

Performance in Dirt 2 though is great !

The Heaven demo worked fine in Windowed mode. Performance was hit pretty hard. No CFX in DX10. Will double check, but I think I had the logo thing still set to show.

Guild Wars was a no go. Would only run windowed on one screen. Going to try LOTRO next. If we can get some more input on things like Mass Effect, then we'll start a sticky with games and their info.

Well i cannot seem to get ME2 working, refuses to go bigger than my 3007. Risen also seems to not like custom resolutions. i have had Success with Borderlands, GTA and Google Earth.

Dirt 2 almost certainly uses Crossfire in windowed, had MSI afterburner in background and both cards were maxed out.

I think this also works with 1680x1050 | 1920x1080 | 1680x1050

Can someone try this?

I think this also works with 1680x1050 | 1920x1080 | 1680x1050

Can someone try this?

Theoretically, and since the game is just a window, this trick works independently of any screens, provided you can place the window as you like to & tweak the game resolution without limits (which depending on the game may or may not be possible)
I guess you could setup for (1680x2 + 1920) width & 1080 height and lose 30pixel which would be out of screen for sidescreens ...

Another game it works perfectly with is Trine, really good framerate ( only 1 gpu active ) but you can windowed mode and hide all the bars so effectively it looks fullscreen =D

Can you please share how you made Dirt 2 work?

Can you please share how you made Dirt 2 work?

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/node/11999

C:UsersAdministratorDocumentsMy GamesDiRT2hardwaresettingshardware_settings_config.xml

doesnt work with any steam valve games. screen shows up for a split second then disappears.

Found something interesting, I loaded up dolphin and started playing zelda. It was in Fullscreen. But out of habit I pressed my shortcut to expand the window over all monitors (using ultramon). It expanded and was playing as if I was using Eyefinity over all 5 screens.

Dolphin is the only game I've been able to do this with. I believe it's because there Fullscreen mode is only a type of window. But it's worth a look to see if other games will work this way.

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I'm not exactly PLP, but I'm 1600x1200+1920x1200+1600x1200

I have a 2405 and FW900 and I could've gotten a 24" lcd for triple setup, but I wanted an IPS panel and small dot pitch, hunted down and drove 160 miles for two 2001FPs, I was certain 5120x1200 is supported by eyefinity! :cry:

I'm not exactly PLP, but I'm 1600x1200+1920x1200+1600x1200

I have a 2405 and FW900 and I could've gotten a 24" lcd for triple setup, but I wanted an IPS panel and small dot pitch, hunted down and drove 160 miles for two 2001FPs, I was certain 5120x1200 is supported by eyefinity! :cry:

Unfortunately not, but you can try the few tricks here and other threads to run it.

You could also run it at 4800x1200 but put in the FOV for 5120x1200. 2D objects / huds / etc. will be a bit stretched, but 3D objects will look correct. It may also be a bit fuzzy since 1600x1200 is being stretched horizontally to 1920x1200.

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I have just purchased a 6970, will be interesting to see how well it performs using this "trick".

I'm going to put this out there. If you're running games in windowed mode, you can always create a shortcut that using ultramon that will maximize the game over you're desktop and even move it so you don't see the bar on the top of the window (This is what I do for Surround gaming on Halo 2).

If you're lazier, you can just make a hotkey in ultramon to extend the game to desktop.

1. Go to General (under options).
2. Change Resize mode "to fit"
3. Uncheck "take taskbars into account when maximizing to desktop"

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This sort of thing honestly cannot be as hard as AMD/Nvidia make it out to be.

Case in point: I started playing Eve Online again after a year, and in the latest patch, multi-monitor stretching support was created. So now I can drag windowed Eve client across all three of my screens, even though they share neither a vertical NOR a horizontal resolution. And the effect is still fairly convincing despite the mismatch.

Couldn't make this happen in HL2 through the Steam launch options, unfortunately.

I'm going to put this out there. If you're running games in windowed mode, you can always create a shortcut that using ultramon that will maximize the game over you're desktop and even move it so you don't see the bar on the top of the window (This is what I do for Surround gaming on Halo 2).

If you're lazier, you can just make a hotkey in ultramon to extend the game to desktop.

1. Go to General (under options).
2. Change Resize mode "to fit"
3. Uncheck "take taskbars into account when maximizing to desktop"

This is a pro tip. Unfortunately, at least with my mismatched monitors, in HL2 I get PLP but the resolution seems to remain 25x16 so it's ugly, or maybe it is cropping and zooming, I can't tell.

[quote]I'm going to put this out there. If you're running games in windowed mode, you can always create a shortcut that using ultramon that will maximize the game over you're desktop and even move it so you don't see the bar on the top of the window (This is what I do for Surround gaming on Halo 2).

If you're lazier, you can just make a hotkey in ultramon to extend the game to desktop.

1. Go to General (under options).
2. Change Resize mode "to fit"
3. Uncheck "take taskbars into account when maximizing to desktop"

This is a pro tip. Unfortunately, at least with my mismatched monitors, in HL2 I get PLP but the resolution seems to remain 25x16 so it's ugly, or maybe it is cropping and zooming, I can't tell.
A lot of times, it literally stretches the image instead of rendering at the now higher resolution. Kinda sucks imho.

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Has anyone had any luck with source engine games, really want to play portal 2 in PLP =(.

Was thinking something along the lines of maybe trying to change the resolution from the devoloper console once in the game, but cannot seem to find any options. Launcher options will not work as earlier discussed... =(

Has anyone had any luck with source engine games, really want to play portal 2 in PLP =(.

Was thinking something along the lines of maybe trying to change the resolution from the devoloper console once in the game, but cannot seem to find any options. Launcher options will not work as earlier discussed... =(

I'd say run it in windowed mode, then use the resolution commands to get into the resolution you need.
You could also use SoftTH (works very well with source engine games)

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[quote]Has anyone had any luck with source engine games, really want to play portal 2 in PLP =(.

Was thinking something along the lines of maybe trying to change the resolution from the devoloper console once in the game, but cannot seem to find any options. Launcher options will not work as earlier discussed... =(

I'd say run it in windowed mode, then use the resolution commands to get into the resolution you need.
You could also use SoftTH (works very well with source engine games)

I gave that a go, for some reason the launcher resolution changer commands don't work in the developer console. If someone happens to know some dev console resolution changing commands that may be handy here!

Hey, I don't know if this would help you as I am using Nvidia.

Portal 2 wouldn't start when launching from 5910x1080@60Hz (1920x3 w bezel correction) for me. Series of anomalities leading to a hard lock needing a reboot from the switch... I then used the launcher options with "-height 1080 -width 5910", it would load up to the menu but with some different resolution (much smaller and only on center screen). There I could select the correct resolution from Graphics options. Had a problem free almost 3-hour session like that.

Reason I am replying here is I saw some other set of launch options like "-w xxxx -h yyyy" for TF2. Are these two formats interchangable? If not try -width -height one and see if it would work.

Good day.

Edit: Fixed a spelling.

GenericBeing, I think there is a "-window" or "-windowed" that you also need to set in order for it to not run fullscreen.

Does anyone know if this will work for World of Warcraft? If so, what do I have to modify? Would it be in the Config.wtf?

I am trying to get P-L-P working with a Dell 30" and 2 Dell 20" 4:5s. I have an HD 6970.

Had been using a 24" 19:10 center and used all three monitors at same resolution using eyefinity multi-dispay. Just replaced the 24" with the 30" and rotated the 20s. Didn't think it'd be this difficult.

Any help would be great. Thanks.

I am looking at getting a Retro PLP setup and was wondering if there have been any new developements with regards to eyefinity or vision surround?

Hi guys, hope this might help anyone looking for a PLP setup with 27" 2560x1440

i have the imac 27" which i connect to my pc as a display.
to flank them i use 15.4" 1440x900 laptop lcd replacements, they fit perfectly and more over the bezel is super thin. thinner than any other screens. My apartment is small hence a plp setup works best.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Laptop-screen-B154PW02-15-4-LCD-PANEL-Laptop-screen-brand-new-/220949186441?pt=UK_Computing_Laptop_Screens_LCD_Panels&hash=item3371990789

to connect the lcd screens to the computer i bought this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Compatible-R-RM5251-LCD-Controller-Board-Kit-DVI-/270972904541?pt=US_Server_Boards&hash=item3f173e645d#ht_10100wt_1159

just tell them the model of lcd you're using and they program it for you.


Displays: 27" imac + 2x 15" 1440 x900 laptop replacement screens
Display Config: PLP
GPU: sapphire hd 7870
Processor: i5 2500k
Case: silverstone sg05
other gears:
fanatec gt3 rs with roso f1 steering, mimo imo 7" monitor running ispeed, rev burner running Defi tachometer with green pre warning shift lights and red shiftlight warning.
fanatec clubsport pedals and buttkicker.

Attached files

there is still no Oficcial Support from AMD/Nvidia for PLP ? You have to use self made stuff, windowed mode or SoftTH right ?

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Those Ebay links are down, could you post the seller info, and maybe what parts list you used?

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Hey guys, was wondering if this trick you are talking about would work for some sort of setup for me?

I was thinking about trying a PLP set up with my 27" Qnix IPS 2560 x 1440 and my 2x 19" Dell 1280 x 1024 monitors? I also have a LG Flatron 22" @ 1920 x 1080

Is there any hope to get a working widescreen set up for this config? I think xfire is out anyway..


All I really want is a good peripheral viewing experience to add to Battlefield 4. I have it running well in single screen on the Qnix @ 1440 mostly maxed out settings (except AA) and OC'd to 110hz. (with battlescreen on the Flatron to my left in landscape) and would love that little extra viewing.. even if its not perfect, I just like to see guys coming at me from the sides..


Is there any hope for me!??


Thanks,

Ian.