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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2007, 07:11 
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I re-installed windows xp pro sp2 on account of upgrading my computer

athlon64 4000+sandiego,
dfi-infinity sli mobo,
2x512mb ddr 2300,
2x xfx 7900 gt,
2x200gig sata raid 1

I believe i have current most drivers for everything, and all patches downloaded. SLI is connected and enabled...

In regular aspect, it only allows me wup to 10xx X 7xx
16:9 allows me 12xx X 7xx
16:10 is not available

desktop resolution and recommended for my monitor is 1680x1050, after installing nvidia 93.81 drivers i couldn't set my desk top above 1025x768 unless i forced it with nforce classic ( btw the new control panel would crash if i enabled sli )

Possibly related, playing rainbowsix Vegas above 800x600 makes everything transparent.. even with the hack .bin found here. Needless to say that resolution is unplayable.


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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2007, 09:32 
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Hello ...

Have you tried the 93.71 drivers ? ... the 93.81 are beta drivers.

Do you have your monitor drivers installed ?


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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2007, 09:59 
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Hello ...

Have you tried the 93.71 drivers ? ... the 93.81 are beta drivers.

Do you have your monitor drivers installed ?



I think I have it figured out, i had to go back to the 91.47 drivers for some reason. Everything looks to be in good shape now. Beats me.

Thanks for the help


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I've done this successfully for my desktop, but:

1) GXM erases the custom res at startup.
2) The custom res (5040x1050) isn't selectable in any games I've tried.

Has anyone figured out how to play games in 5040x1050 under Vista x64/180.x drivers?


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PostPosted: 22 Nov 2008, 11:58 
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Same here. I don't quite understand the "CVT Reduced Blank" trick, but your manual settings work with me, in that I can apply 5040x1050 to the desktop without getting "out of range". For this, I say thanks ! :)

Now the tricky part : how do you have GXM and games deal with this res ? :?


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Ive never had GXM mess the res on either system Ive done this on. Have you tried removing it and reinstalling it? What method does your GXM start.. I have mine manually placed as a shortcut in the Startup Folder, not as a service or anything. This is what my GXM Display Modes looks like:



Did you get the "Setup has changed" error message from GXM at any point and what did you select?



Has anyone figured out how to play games in 5040x1050 under Vista x64/180.x drivers?


There isnt (shouldnt?) be anything to figure out!?
Neither system has any issue above the generic TH2G issues. Some games let you select the res in-game, most dont. Ive played Fallout3 to completion, tested WoW, played Left 4 Dead, CS Source, Dead Space, no issues specific to 180 series manual setup. Nor should there be, this is all just vanilla nVidia driver supporting - res stuff, people do this all the time on CRT projectors and various other setups.

What have you tried that isnt working?


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No game allows me to select 5040x1050.

As I said before, 5040x1050 is avail. on the desktop via the custom res, but no games can "see" that res. In other words, the highest res that shows up in all games as selectable is 3840x800.

I am running Vista x64 - perhaps that's the problem.

Updated to 180.48 and still no luck. Game performance under Tri-SLI did improve quite a bit, though (yay).


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No game allows me to select 5040x1050.

As I said before, 5040x1050 is avail. on the desktop via the custom res, but no games can "see" that res. In other words, the highest res that shows up in all games as selectable is 3840x800.


Omg, please pick one or two of the games Ive said work! "No games" is completely vague.

Manually force them with either an ini tweak (Fallout) or Command Line (any Valve Steam game). You cannot (reliably) expect the resolution to appear in the game.

The nVidia 5040 custom res working or not is nothing to do with TH2G, its all nVidia software at this point. Have you tried searching for other, non-TH2G, people with resolutions that are entered in Control Panel that didnt appear in games (that are confirmed working with "selectable" resolutions)? People here forget there is a whole world of people out there setting up manual timings and resolutions that have nothing to do with Triplehead.


As a by-note, some people have mentioned the Horizontal scan rate appears as 61.49 when setting up the res and maybe this is causing it not to work. I dont think so as I just setup a new graphics card and sure enough, 61.49 appears when testing, but once you complete the test it automatically changes to 60.88 as pictured.

I will also add that its much easier to setup 5040x1050 if you setup 1680x1050@57hz and are running in that res when setting up 5040 by editing the 1680x1050@57hz custom res.


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All these tips make sense, but please understand you seem to be just a lucky uh... guy at this point :lol:

I will also add that its much easier to setup 5040x1050 if you setup 1680x1050@57hz and are running in that res when setting up 5040 by editing the 1680x1050@57hz custom res.
I gotta say I've not tried the 180.xx forceware under Vista yet - I use XP for TripleWide, period - but I'll keep your tips in mind when I get the patience to try and setup my TH2G in Vista again.

-Your GXM : it sucks, just like ours (none of the new display modes listed).
-"Setup has changed" : what do you think ? :lol: I tried with or without restarting in my numerous attempts, like everyone having a hard time at this I think, to no avail.
-Custom res : in XP it's a pretty straightforward process. First I create 5040x1050@57Hz in nvidia cp, then I can apply it to the desktop and select it in games. In Vista, I can only apply it to the desktop - using your manual settings, and it won't show up in games. So why does it work in XP, without "anything to figure out" ?! This is what's driving kondor999 and I crazy :cry:


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Yes, all good suggestions, but please realize most of us are very experienced users who have been on the bleeding edge for 20+ years.

There is clearly something different and subtle about your setup which is allowing 5040 to work.

The reason I say "all games" is because I literally own every PC game made in the last few years and there wasn't any point in listing all of them. But, to be specific, here is a subset:

Crysis
Warhead
Fallout3
Far Cry 2
COD4
HL2
GTR2/GT Legends/all games using this engine
Bioshock
World In Conflict

and, literally, everything else....

Get my point? It's game-agnostic. All using ini/cfg - not trying to select from within the game. Please note that, when it was working under XP, the 5040 res was avail. as a selection from within the game menu of all those games. If the res is being reported to Windows, it should show up in menus.

One big thing: the list of avail res's is built up from the *monitor* config - not the vid card config. And my monitor is listed as "generic plug and play" under windows, although the Nvidia cpl says "Matrox Digital". Perhaps that's the problem? What does yours say?

I've tried to install the gxm.inf as a driver for my monitor, as elucidated in another thread, but under x64 anyway, Windows simply comes back and says "The driver you have is already up-to-date" (I'm paraphrasing).

Upon reboot, the GXM will erase my 5040 custom res from the Nvidia cpl.

Even with the GXM utility uninstalled (to prevent it from erasing my 5040 custom res) 5040 is not do-able. Windows simply does not know my monitor can do that res, it would seem.

I'll continue to try different permutations, but perhaps it would be easiest if you could list every salient detail abut your system - including a single game we all own (such as Crysis) that you have working at 5040.

Once we can reproduce your results on someone else's machine - we should be able to figure out what's different and, therefore, what the problem is in everyone else's setup.

Thanks!


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