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 Post subject: GTA IV and more and more
PostPosted: 20 Dec 2008, 13:34 
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One thing's for sure, you must really enjoy the game to screencap & share it with such intensity :D (Do you really always play in TripleHead ? Don't you occasionally play on a single screen to enjoy better framerates ?) As for 180.84, well the mixed feedback continues it seems, too bad this game and everything attached to it is so much of an unforgiving "hit/miss" experience. :x

Picking int'l nvidia drivers is *always* a good choice... For some reason the US ones often have strangely specific issues, lack SLI profiles or sth. Odd but verified on several occasions in the last couple years.

Dear Paddy, would you be so kind as to bench the game (at any settings) with and without SLI one of these days ? :oops: I don't give a toss if the numbers are not jaw-dropping, it's just curiosity and my interest in SLI kickin' in.


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2008, 13:45 
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Do you really always play in TripleHead ?
Yes.

Don't you occasionally play on a single screen to enjoy better framerates ?
No ... I just can't play games on a single screen anymore as I miss the immersion that I get with TripleHead.
Of the games that do TripleHead this is the only game for me that the fps are low enough to consider playing on a single screen.
That said I don't thin the res is the issue ... we'll see ...

Dear Paddy, would you be so kind as to bench the game (at any settings) with and without SLI one of these days ? :oops: I don't give a toss if the numbers are not jaw-dropping, it's just curiosity and my interest in SLI kickin' in.
Will do ... just for you ... a bit later today and I'll also do it at 1680x1050 just to see if there is much of a difference in fps.


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2008, 15:56 
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I dream of the day when I'll leave you a message that doesn't say "thanks" :lol: Meanwhile, well thanks ! That's nice of you... o TripleHead zealot.
(It's the first time I'm so interested in a game alhough I'm firmly decided not to buy it before months. Strange feeling.) :lol:


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2008, 18:31 
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Ok, thanks for your feedback.[quote]And that's all with any game, not just with bug city IV.
Ouch. So putting all install/launch problems aside, you'd still call the game itself a buggy mess ?

I would yes, though I haven't played it mind you.

But as accounts report it to be insanely buggy for a 'gone gold' game, I won't even consider it, the drm, the requirement to use both multiplayer/clients even if you're offline and all that other crap simply shouts no thanks.

I've already got multiple games I haven't even started playing, what little time I have to play goes to games that deserve it, gta IV just doesn't cut it.

Once they patch out the bugs, drm and ridiculous requirements and it's in the bargain bin I might reconsider, for now rockstar can go in the corner and reflect on who pays them and why it's not a good idea to give them crap.


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2008, 21:32 
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I dream of the day when I'll leave you a message that doesn't say "thanks" :lol: Meanwhile, well thanks ! That's nice of you...
lol and np ...
Some (even insiders) don't know how to say thank you even after asking for something and yet they can hunt me down for the slightest error or even put words in my mouth ...
Ah well ... never mind eh ... thanks for saying thanks ... :D

Here are the benches ...
To get the settings slightly over the recommended and turn off the vsync ... I am using a commandline.txt with these two lines ...
-novblank
-norestrictions

Using the first comp in my sig. with these settings (which I have been using to play the game) ...

Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 20
Detail Distance: 100
Shadow Density: 16
Vehicle Density: 50


5040x1050 ... SLi ... (the way I have been playing it).
Average FPS: 32.25
Duration: 37.42 sec
CPU Usage: 65%
System memory usage: 69%
Video memory usage: 99%

5040x1050 no SLi ...
Average FPS: 31.31
Duration: 37.21 sec
CPU Usage: 68%
System memory usage: 68%
Video memory usage: 99%

1680x1050 ... SLi ...
Average FPS: 50.27
Duration: 37.16 sec
CPU Usage: 65%
System memory usage: 77%
Video memory usage: 93%

1680x1050 no SLi ...
Average FPS: 44.87
Duration: 37.33 sec
CPU Usage: 67%
System memory usage: 76%
Video memory usage: 95%

I generally don't run it with fraps showing the fps ... I don't want to be reminded of how low the fps are ... :P ... but I have played a bit with them showing to get an idea of the fps ...
In reality ... the fps can go from about 18fps in heavy action with rain ... up to 70 indoors but it is usually around 26-30 and it is remarkably smooth for such low fps.
I do play with the blur on as I really don't like the jaggies ... maybe that helps smooth things ... dunno


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PostPosted: 21 Dec 2008, 05:35 
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Does this game play like poop on the latest high end spec? I read someone say he had a Core i7 and GTX 280 and was getting horrible frame rates.


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PostPosted: 21 Dec 2008, 05:38 
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Does this game play like poop on the latest high end spec? I read someone say he had a Core i7 and GTX 280 and was getting horrible frame rates.


Its all over the wall. Ive seen people getting better FPS with a [email protected] with an 8800gtx compared to like you said a Core i7+gtx280.

Ive also seen people with similar setups getting great fps.


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PostPosted: 21 Dec 2008, 06:10 
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It plays well enough for me at 1680x1050 with settings pretty much at medium... it's one of those games that seem oddly smooth even at low FPS. Of course indoors it's a pretty constant 60fps, but outside it's anywhere from 18fps with thick fog, headlights, and heavy traffic, up into the 50's duringthe day.


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PostPosted: 21 Dec 2008, 10:31 
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It plays well enough for me at 1680x1050 with settings pretty much at medium... it's one of those games that seem oddly smooth even at low FPS. Of course indoors it's a pretty constant 60fps, but outside it's anywhere from 18fps with thick fog, headlights, and heavy traffic, up into the 50's duringthe day.


Do you have motion blur on?

Thats the number one reason why motion blur is such a big 'hit' in games recently, it hides the low FPS. Same thing goes for crysis too for example, absurdly low FPS but nearly everyone says it looks and feels just fine even with the low FPS.


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PostPosted: 21 Dec 2008, 11:18 
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Well if you mean the blur function, then no. It makes things too fuzzy. But it's not really the same kind of blur that other games have...is it? Either way, I won't use it. But if it didn't blur EVERYTHING, then i likely would.


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