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PostPosted: 19 Jan 2011, 21:04 
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I love the idea of a 56 inch, 2560X1080 display for gaming, especially since it wouldn't require the sheer amount of GPU power multimonitor gaming does. The only question is, will they actually take a 2560X1080 input?

Phillips has sold a 2560X1080 HDTV in Europe for a while. The few sources I've ever heard discuss its potential for HTPC say that you can't actually input above 1920X1080 - the TV simply crops the black bars off video sources and upscales. Hopefully Vizio won't miss the same opportunity.

Does anyone know what inputs will actually support 2560X1080? I'd be surprised if they put a dual link DVI or displayport input on just for the HTPC crowd.


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PostPosted: 21 Jan 2011, 08:46 
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I love the idea of a 56 inch, 2560X1080 display for gaming, especially since it wouldn't require the sheer amount of GPU power multimonitor gaming does. The only question is, will they actually take a 2560X1080 input?

Phillips has sold a 2560X1080 HDTV in Europe for a while. The few sources I've ever heard discuss its potential for HTPC say that you can't actually input above 1920X1080 - the TV simply crops the black bars off video sources and upscales. Hopefully Vizio won't miss the same opportunity.

Does anyone know what inputs will actually support 2560X1080? I'd be surprised if they put a dual link DVI or displayport input on just for the HTPC crowd.

HDMI 1.3 and 1.4 should be able to do it.

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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2011, 00:15 
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Ug, you're really missing the mark on that. 2.37:1 is so damned close to (depending who you talk to) the proper 2.35:1 or 2.39:1 AR for movies as not to be notable in difference. You are going to really split hairs over the difference between 2.37:1 and 2.39:1 AR?

Yes, I wan't those 20,000+ pixels.

This would be ideal for black-box removed 1920x800 Blu-ray native resolution content in a HTPC environment. 1920x800 would be proper cinema aspect ratio but for a HTPC 2560x1080 makes a lot more sense combined with functional desktop use.

I wouldn't say it is ideal. I think ideal would mean full use of the display without stretching or cropping. You are still going to have one of stretching, letterboxing, or cropping when experiencing the main selling point of these displays.

I also think that the 1200 vertical pixels of an aspect correct 2868x1200 display would be considered more ideal for desktop users than a 2560x1080 display.

1920x800
Upscaled to width 2560 uses a 1.3~ multiplier. This is 1066 vertical pixels.
Upscaled to height 1080 uses a 1.35 multiplier. That is 2592 horizontal pixels.

The difference is less with the closer 1920x802 resolution.

It is slight, and most people won't notice the difference seeing as most people don't notice what happens to a 1.85:1 movie when it is "optimized" for 16:9 televisions. If the manufacturing technology was limited I could understand but this is a cost decision.


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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2011, 08:58 
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Maybe it's not ideal, but it's so close I don't see that it's worth fussing about. Assuming the display cuts off the black bars and then upscales, and also assuming it has square pixels, it has a logical resolution of 1920x810. That means ten out of 810 lines are wasted on letterboxing. To that I say BFD.

Hopefully that *is* what it means. Vertically stretching the whole picture by ten pixels would be dumb.


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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2011, 09:58 
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[quote]I love the idea of a 56 inch, 2560X1080 display for gaming, especially since it wouldn't require the sheer amount of GPU power multimonitor gaming does. The only question is, will they actually take a 2560X1080 input?

Phillips has sold a 2560X1080 HDTV in Europe for a while. The few sources I've ever heard discuss its potential for HTPC say that you can't actually input above 1920X1080 - the TV simply crops the black bars off video sources and upscales. Hopefully Vizio won't miss the same opportunity.

Does anyone know what inputs will actually support 2560X1080? I'd be surprised if they put a dual link DVI or displayport input on just for the HTPC crowd.

HDMI 1.3 and 1.4 should be able to do it.

True, at least in theory. I worry about implementation though - I'm not actually sure if current PC graphics boards support more than 1080P over HDMI. And the Phillips has HDMI 1.3/1.4 support , but only takes up to a 1920x1080 input according to the spec sheet. I hope Vizio does a proper implementation for HTPC use.


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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2011, 19:57 
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Maybe it's not ideal, but it's so close I don't see that it's worth fussing about. Assuming the display cuts off the black bars and then upscales, and also assuming it has square pixels, it has a logical resolution of 1920x810. That means ten out of 810 lines are wasted on letterboxing. To that I say BFD.


I personally wouldn't recommend it, but in the end it is the user's decision about what is acceptable or not. I just wanted to make sure people know what they are getting.

Also with the upscaling that the display will do you will get around 14 pixel rows from the 810 or 35,840 pixels.

The letterboxing is slight but noticable.



Assuming that it doesn't crop or stretch that is.


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